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One Love
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   Posted 10/27/2006 8:03 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
SK was very, very smart. His whole definition of love INCLUDES God. In SK's mind, a person could NOT love another person unless they were helping another to love God more. God was ALWAYS the "middle term" in love, Christianly speaking. (For more on this, see Storm's Commentary on "Works of Love" sorenkierkegaard.org/kw16.htm) This is why God "as middle term" was absolutely crucial to my description of love.

But...

There are some people who do NOT have God as the middle term in their loving. Perhaps they have "the brotherhood/sisterhood of humanity" as their middle term. Perhaps they have "doing good" as their middle term. But it not the God who IS unconditional, unidirectional, unpreferential love.

When we try to love people as ourselves WITHOUT FIRST checking up on how we see ourselves and others...we are in for a world of hurt. We often project our own inadequacies and hurts onto others BECAUSE we don't have any other framework from whence to see things. So we do ACTIONS that supposedly say "I love you" but they are not grounded in a DESPAIR-FREE context. Which means, like SK would say, that it's ultimately NOT true love per se...but a form of unhealthy SELF-LOVE. To love by favoritism (either FOR oneself or AGAINST oneself) is not to love as God loves.

(PLEASE read the Commentary on "Works of Love";-)

This is how humanitarianism can be idolatrous. I can easily say that all human beings are worthy of love because they are human beings. Further, I can do ALL MANNER of "loving" behavior to every human I see out of this idea. However, if I just keep things RIGHT THERE, what I've done is merely say that I love the "humanness" exercised in human beings, NOT that I love individual human beings as I become aware of them. (Why are humans worthy of love ANYWAY, right?) Not only that, but just like the Tower of Babel story, we get to a point where, for the sake of human flourishing, we OVERSTEP OUR BOUNDARIES...and get into trouble.

When we leave God out of our loving, we basically leave out the GROUNDING for our self-understanding that makes loving others into a healthy affair. We make it terribly easy for idolatry of some form to emerge...and leak it's pus all over everything.

I will give you a VERY PERSONAL example.

I love my wife. (Aki Hughes-Polk) I love her dearly. And she loves me the same way.

Over time, our love for one another took a turn that I never would have expected to happen: it became idolatrous.

See, we loved each other so much...that the thought of the other person dying was WAAAAAAAY to much for the other to bear. We would be in fear of the other spouse dying in an accident. We'd be in fear of losing each other. Slowly, this fear became OBSESSIVE...and we began getting angry with each other because we were AFRAID of the loss of SELF that would occur if we lost each other. We began being more disquieted in our relationship. We began to be more subtlely despairing.

And then God spoke clearly...to BOTH of us...about our state...

And my wife, inspired by God...wrote this poem...

Bound

There is a time in our life when we are prepared
To meet a person and common interests are shared.
It is fun, you feel free,
Your heart filled with glee
Until your connection is not what you believed.
You thought at the height of unconditional amorous expression
that there could not be any other lesson.
The lesson of loss becomes your worry
You realize the time could elapse in a hurry.
The separation of two having fun…
the possible ways in your mind, you begin to shun
gripping fear makes you both want to run.
The original loneliness was not bad
It was only your imagination of love that you had.
The personal manifestation of your dreams
Whatever she or he may be
when lost could result in a perpetual inner scream.
Your mind left behind
tears wearing away at your cheeks over time.
An untimely death you do not want to decline.
Oh Lord, save us from this self-destruction
we did not discern the no idol instruction.
Our earthly joys
Along with ourselves destroyed
We did not intend this overwhelming passion within
for our corporeal wife or mortal husband.


Following this, wifey and I decided that we would NEVER fall into this again. That we would begin to put God COMPLETELY first in our lives as individuals...and as a couple.
 
Before, our love relationship was mainly self-preferential.
 
Now, we are beginning to see each other as SIBLINGS in Christ who have covenanted to demonstrate the the glory of divine life in Christ through mutual submission via unconditional, unidirectional love towards each other...in marriage.
 
It's a big difference, yo.

It was THIS awakening, actually...that really started my hardcore thrust on trying to seek God with all that I am.

My siblings in God, the danger is REAL.

If God is NOT the center of human love...there are serious consequences down the line.

Just my thoughts.


"All is full of love."  -- Bjork
 
 
"God is love. Whoever lives in love lives in God, and God in them." -- 1 John 4:16b
 
 
"God is most glorified in us as we are most satisfied in God's love." -- the newest mantra of the Evangelical Universalist :)

Post Edited (Namaste) : 10/27/2006 8:08:05 AM (GMT-5)

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Starkman
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   Posted 10/27/2006 10:16 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
As I have come to understand a new light about evangelism in our Post-Modern context - the need to just be in people's lives because they are worth it and not be in their lives just to share the gospel - I realize more and more the futility of loving people without God as the middle term. In that I have just come to understand what it means to really love people because they are valuable, I no longer call my desire to share the gospel with people “loving them.” That wasn’t love, it was a job. But now I have a different problem.

If I see someone who does not know or care about God do a wonderful and great deed for someone else, who also does not know or care about God. I might think to myself, "Hey, what a wonderful thing that person did for that other person." Perhaps, too, the recipient of the good deed will pass on a good deed to someone else and make the world a bit more brighter. And that’s not bad. However, at the end of these people's lives, that's all that they will be able to find from acts of giving or receiving good deeds without a God-centered middle. The insidious deception that follows these good things, however, is what is so destructive; that there isn’t anything else to be found, nor any need to seek after more than what is experienced in giving or receiving. To many people, this seems perfectly normal; the utility of good deeds making the world a better place.

So I've asked myself, "what is it that will make my love and good deeds produce fruit with a distinctive utility toward freshening lives around me with the fragrance of Christ? What is it that distinguishes a good heart for others from a heart that not only cares for others but does so because of the God who made all men and women so valuable? Extreme Home Makeover is a great show. It's all about helping others (after, of course, the advertisements are played, the sponsors are paid, and the show makes a huge profit). But when I watch the crew go home at the end of each show, I ask myself, "Now what?" Yes, the family has a new home, but...now what? Is that it? Is this the goal of having done a good deed; to have made the world a better place, to have helped a family? How are my good deeds to reflect anything more about life than what these folks have reflected? How are my life's good works supposed to out-do buidling a home for someone?

By your love they will know that you are my disciples
You will know them by their fruits (conversely, they will know me by my fruits)

Building a home for someone is a good thing to do, and it’s what those families on Extreme Home Makeover need. Nothing wrong there. And some of the folk on the show may be Christians. For those families who are Christians and walk into a brand new home, they can directly relate to God, in thankfulness, as the Ground for all good things. And the Christian who helped build the home can relate directly to God, with thankfulness, as the same God who grounds all good things.

But what about the people who built the house and are not Christians? What will a Christian be able to do for them that will speak of the God who grounds? How will a Christian love and serve that home-builder in a way that will reflect the fragrance of Christ?

I don’t know how God can make the fragrance of Christ shine through me in a way that makes good deeds, love and the such become more than just making the world a better place. I am far from the good deeder than are many non-believers, and I don’t know how to make sense of that. I am discovering how true it really is that it must be the Spirit of God, who loves people more than I do, who misses them more than I do, who must do the wooing, the pulling, the prodding and the shaking. I can do no good deed of my own that will capture the attention of an individual in the way I want it to capture his attention. It must be the Spirit who works in the hearts of men, not me. No great truth, but I’m starting from scratch here. I want to love people just because they are worth it, and I want that to become a vehicle for God to show His love for them. I have no idea how this will work, but I have at least found the path to avoid committing self-love and idolatry.


My teacher used to say that whenever he read Scripture, he would always ask the question, "What does this have to say about the character of God?"  Working off his thinking, as I read Scripture, I have come to ask, "What does this have to say about the heart and passion of God's desire for relationship for us?

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PotOnWheel
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   Posted 10/28/2006 9:07 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Evdokimov had an interesting critique of SK in - in http://www.svspress.com/product_info.php?products_id=286 - "Woman and the Salvation of the World"


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   Posted 10/28/2006 11:30 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Don't make me buy the book, POW. Give me a short synopsis. :-)


 

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