Open Theism Discussion Board
  HomeLog InRegisterSearch the ForumHelp
   
Open Theism Discussion Board > Public Forums > General Chat > Christians should pack heat?!  Forum Quick Jump
 
New Topic Post Reply Printable Version
[ << Previous Thread | Next Thread >> | Show Newest Post First ]

Corey
Five with a Four-wing




Date Joined Feb 2003
Total Posts : 1893
 
   Posted 1/4/2007 9:18 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.

Oh my gosh!!! Laugh or cry, this got forwarded to me...

________

 

What would you do if armed terrorists burst into your church during a worship service and started attacking your friends and family with automatic weapons? Would you be prepared to defend yourself and other innocents with deadly force  and would you be justified in doing so?

 

In "Shooting Back: The Right and Duty of Self-Defense," van Wyk makes a biblical, Christian case for individuals arming themselves with guns, and does so more persuasively than perhaps any other author because he found himself in a church attacked by terrorists.

 

"Grenades were exploding in flashes of light. Pews shattered under the blasts, sending splinters flying through the air," he recalls of the July 25, 1993, St. James Church Massacre. "An automatic assault rifle was being fired and was fast ripping the pews  and whoever, whatever was in its trajectory  to pieces. We were being attacked!"

 

But van Wyk was not defenseless that day. Had he been unarmed like the other congregants, the slaughter would have been much worse.

 

"Instinctively, I knelt down behind the bench in front of me and pulled out my .38 special snub-nosed revolver, which I always carried with me," he writes in "Shooting Back." "I would have felt undressed without it. Many people could not understand why I would carry a firearm into a church service, but I argued that this was a particularly dangerous time in South Africa."

 

During that Sunday evening service, the terrorists, wielding AK-47s and grenades, killed 11 and wounded 58. But the fact that one man  van Wyk  fired back, wounding one of the attackers, drove the others away.

 

 

Back to Top
 

Starkman
Registered Member




Date Joined Oct 2001
Total Posts : 1747
 
   Posted 1/4/2007 9:24 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
If a police man (off duty, but never without a piece) were in church here in America, would he be justified in using is weapon?

Starkman


My teacher used to say that whenever he read Scripture, he would always ask the question, "What does this have to say about the character of God?"  Working off his thinking, as I read Scripture, I have come to ask, "What does this have to say about the heart and passion of God's desire for relationship with us?

Back to Top
 

feelinahole
Registered Member


Date Joined Jan 2004
Total Posts : 754
 
   Posted 1/5/2007 12:57 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
If you mean does a Christian have the right to defend oneself, one's person, that is one thing. But your "packing heat" trivializes the issue, ridicules the opposing view and shows you have already made up your mind, so whats the point, unless its self-justification.


Back to Top
 

Sahid
Megistered Rember




Date Joined Jun 2004
Total Posts : 2013
 
   Posted 1/7/2007 12:50 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Jesus used force to defend himself and others. Right?

Right?

Followers of Jesus are to avoid suffering and to eliminate the suffering of others through use of force when necessary. Just like Jesus. No brainer.


Watch me fly. Freedom like wings and I will use them. Freedom like wings and I will spread them wide. - Stavesacre

Back to Top
 
New Topic Post Reply Printable Version
   
Forum Information
Currently it is Monday, November 09, 2026 10:54 AM (GMT -6)
There are a total of 97,718 posts in 6,040 threads.
In the last 3 days there were 0 new threads and 0 reply posts. View Active Threads