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One Love
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   Posted 4/8/2007 11:39 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
"I have been blessed by God. And If I'm blessed, there is one reason and one reason only, and that is to help others.
--Akiane




The Connection

"…In one of my visions the word connection was flashing in the colors and details of one allegory that I was immediately able to transform onto the canvas. The communion, the attention and the action formed the connection between three birds. One of the birds was calling and communing, the second one was focusing and giving all her attention, and the third was acting and flying to help. The planets in the sky were also forming a ripple effect of the same Connection.

Without the communion, the attention and the action we cannot have a true Connection…

-Akiane, Age 10



Necessary Existence is Self-Relationship.

Self-Communication.
 
Creation is a CONTINGENT EXPRESSIVE FORM of this eternally occuring Self-Communication.

How is this inaccurate, Tom?


"My prayer is not for them alone. I pray also for those who will believe in me through their message,  that all of them may be One, Father, just as you are in me and I am in you. May they also be in us so that the world may believe that you have sent me.  I have given them the glory that you gave me, that they may be One as we are One—  I in them and you in me—so that they may be brought to complete Unity. Then the world will know that you sent me and have loved them even as you have loved me."

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   Posted 4/8/2007 11:50 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Moses said to God, "Suppose I go to the Israelites and say to them, 'The God of your fathers has sent me to you,' and they ask me, 'What is his name?' Then what shall I tell them?"

God said to Moses, "I AM WHO I AM". This is what you are to say to the Israelites: 'I AM' has sent me to you.' "

God also said to Moses, "Say to the Israelites, 'The LORD, the God of your fathers—the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac and the God of Jacob—has sent me to you.'
"This is my name forever,
the name you shall call me
from generation to generation.

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SELF-RELATIONSHIP

FREEDOM and ORDER

God may as well be saying "I RELATE!"

And because God SELF-RELATES, a Creation that relates to God AND to itself is even possible.

Isn't this clear?


"My prayer is not for them alone. I pray also for those who will believe in me through their message,  that all of them may be One, Father, just as you are in me and I am in you. May they also be in us so that the world may believe that you have sent me.  I have given them the glory that you gave me, that they may be One as we are One—  I in them and you in me—so that they may be brought to complete Unity. Then the world will know that you sent me and have loved them even as you have loved me."

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One Love
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   Posted 4/8/2007 11:58 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
And Tom...

What do both the Mobius strip AND the Klein bottle represent?

SELF-RELATIONALITY WHERE COMPLEMENTARITY EXISTS.


"My prayer is not for them alone. I pray also for those who will believe in me through their message,  that all of them may be One, Father, just as you are in me and I am in you. May they also be in us so that the world may believe that you have sent me.  I have given them the glory that you gave me, that they may be One as we are One—  I in them and you in me—so that they may be brought to complete Unity. Then the world will know that you sent me and have loved them even as you have loved me."

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   Posted 4/8/2007 12:52 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
I no longer know anything. I don't know what or who I am. Don't know if I am. Don't know what I am and am not relating to. Don't know anything.

I think I'll just do whatever makes the best sense of my sense experience--with Anita and the kids. That's all I've got.

I give up trying to understand it.

Whatever,
Tom


 

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   Posted 4/8/2007 2:12 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Actually you do know, Tom.  I know you know.
 
 
love,
sealh


"When one has once fully entered the realm of love, the world — no matter how imperfect — becomes rich and beautiful, it consists solely of opportunities for love."
~ Soren Kierkegaard

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One Love
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   Posted 4/8/2007 3:39 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Tom:
I think I'll just do whatever makes the best sense of my sense experience--with Anita and the kids.

Sound good to me. Do what you need to do, man. :-)

In my mind, what makes the BEST SENSE out of how human beings interrelate on ALL LEVELS of social interaction?

The Great Commandments.

Loving God and Loving all others as one loves oneself!

Remember how INEXTRICABLY LINKED these two are?

What are these based on?

Self-relationality where complementarity exists.


"My prayer is not for them alone. I pray also for those who will believe in me through their message,  that all of them may be One, Father, just as you are in me and I am in you. May they also be in us so that the world may believe that you have sent me.  I have given them the glory that you gave me, that they may be One as we are One—  I in them and you in me—so that they may be brought to complete Unity. Then the world will know that you sent me and have loved them even as you have loved me."

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   Posted 4/8/2007 5:38 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
D, I just sent you an email at your hotmail (about Rev. 21.27). OH...MY...GOODNESS. How did I miss this all these years?

Tom


 

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   Posted 4/8/2007 5:39 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
SWEET!! CHecking it now...


"My prayer is not for them alone. I pray also for those who will believe in me through their message,  that all of them may be One, Father, just as you are in me and I am in you. May they also be in us so that the world may believe that you have sent me.  I have given them the glory that you gave me, that they may be One as we are One—  I in them and you in me—so that they may be brought to complete Unity. Then the world will know that you sent me and have loved them even as you have loved me."

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   Posted 4/8/2007 5:54 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Lovely. biggrin
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   Posted 4/8/2007 6:33 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Not seeing the connection with Rev 21:27.


Brandon
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   Posted 4/8/2007 10:12 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
One said...
B,

If we are talking a bi-polar relational unity between necessary existence and contingent expressive existence, then everything said is true.

Insofar as all things are forms of dispositional reality that emerge from what Necessary Existence is, then all things are "one in their being and origin.

Insofar as everything is organized and circumscribed by the Logos, they are one in their general law of existence.

Insofar as the Logos and Spirit are the organizing "principles" of all interdependency and universal becoming in Creation, the realities in Creation are one in their interdependence and universal pattern of their relations.

What's the problem?
 
 
I don't understand a word of that.
 
 


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   Posted 4/8/2007 10:33 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
No connection to this thread. Sorry B. That had to do with universalism. I was just giving D a heads up.

Tom


 

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   Posted 4/8/2007 10:41 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
"And the leaves of the tree are for the healing of the nations."
 
Restoration of the conquered enemies of Zion following divine judgment?
 
Universalism?
 


"My prayer is not for them alone. I pray also for those who will believe in me through their message,  that all of them may be One, Father, just as you are in me and I am in you. May they also be in us so that the world may believe that you have sent me.  I have given them the glory that you gave me, that they may be One as we are One—  I in them and you in me—so that they may be brought to complete Unity. Then the world will know that you sent me and have loved them even as you have loved me."

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   Posted 4/8/2007 10:48 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
TGB said...
No connection to this thread. Sorry B. That had to do with universalism. I was just giving D a heads up.

Tom
Thanks, Tom.
 
(This discussion is way, way over my head.)


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   Posted 4/8/2007 10:53 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
The Glory of Zion: Isaiah 60

1 "Arise, shine, for your light has come,
and the glory of the LORD rises upon you.

2 See, darkness covers the earth
and thick darkness is over the peoples,
but the LORD rises upon you
and his glory appears over you.

3 Nations will come to your light,
and kings to the brightness of your dawn.

4 "Lift up your eyes and look about you:
All assemble and come to you;
your sons come from afar,
and your daughters are carried on the hip.

5 Then you will look and be radiant,
your heart will throb and swell with joy;
the wealth on the seas will be brought to you,
to you the riches of the nations will come.

6 Herds of camels will cover your land,
young camels of Midian and Ephah.
And all from Sheba will come,
bearing gold and incense
and proclaiming the praise of the LORD.

7 All Kedar's flocks will be gathered to you,
the rams of Nebaioth will serve you;
they will be accepted as offerings on my altar,
and I will adorn my glorious temple.

8 "Who are these that fly along like clouds,
like doves to their nests?

9 Surely the islands look to me;
in the lead are the ships of Tarshish, [a]
bringing your children from afar,
with their silver and gold,
to the honor of the LORD your God,
the Holy One of Israel,
for he has endowed you with splendor.

10 "Foreigners will rebuild your walls,
and their kings will serve you.
Though in anger I struck you,
in favor I will show you compassion.

11 Your gates will always stand open,
they will never be shut, day or night,
so that people may bring you the wealth of the nations—
their kings led in triumphal procession.


12 For the nation or kingdom that will not serve you will perish;
it will be utterly ruined.

13 "The glory of Lebanon will come to you,
the juniper, the fir and the cypress together,
to adorn my sanctuary;
and I will glorify the place for my feet.


14 The children of your oppressors will come bowing before you;
all who despise you will bow down at your feet

and will call you the City of the LORD,
Zion of the Holy One of Israel.


15 "Although you have been forsaken and hated,
with no one traveling through,
I will make you the everlasting pride
and the joy of all generations.

16 You will drink the milk of nations
and be nursed at royal breasts.
Then you will know that I, the LORD, am your Savior,
your Redeemer, the Mighty One of Jacob.

17 Instead of bronze I will bring you gold,
and silver in place of iron.
Instead of wood I will bring you bronze,
and iron in place of stones.
I will make peace your governor
and well-being your ruler.

18 No longer will violence be heard in your land,
nor ruin or destruction within your borders,
but you will call your walls Salvation
and your gates Praise.

19 The sun will no more be your light by day,
nor will the brightness of the moon shine on you,
for the LORD will be your everlasting light,
and your God will be your glory.

20 Your sun will never set again,
and your moon will wane no more;
the LORD will be your everlasting light,
and your days of sorrow will end.

21 Then will all your people be righteous
and they will possess the land forever.
They are the shoot I have planted,
the work of my hands,
for the display of my splendor.

22 The least of you will become a thousand,
the smallest a mighty nation.
I am the LORD;
in its time I will do this swiftly."

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Then the angel showed me the river of the water of life, as clear as crystal, flowing from the throne of God and of the Lamb down the middle of the great street of the city. On each side of the river stood the tree of life, bearing twelve crops of fruit, yielding its fruit every month. And the leaves of the tree are for the healing of the nations. No longer will there be any curse. The throne of God and of the Lamb will be in the city, and his servants will serve him. They will see his face, and his name will be on their foreheads. There will be no more night. They will not need the light of a lamp or the light of the sun, for the Lord God will give them light. And they will reign for ever and ever.


"My prayer is not for them alone. I pray also for those who will believe in me through their message,  that all of them may be One, Father, just as you are in me and I am in you. May they also be in us so that the world may believe that you have sent me.  I have given them the glory that you gave me, that they may be One as we are One—  I in them and you in me—so that they may be brought to complete Unity. Then the world will know that you sent me and have loved them even as you have loved me."

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   Posted 4/8/2007 10:57 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Kinda a common sense question with Revelation 22...

If this takes place in the New Heaven/Earth with the Consummated City of God...why would there be HEALING TREATMENT (therapeian) of "the nations" in a place where there are supposedly ONLY the perfected, RENEWED covenant people of God?

Hmmm...


"My prayer is not for them alone. I pray also for those who will believe in me through their message,  that all of them may be One, Father, just as you are in me and I am in you. May they also be in us so that the world may believe that you have sent me.  I have given them the glory that you gave me, that they may be One as we are One—  I in them and you in me—so that they may be brought to complete Unity. Then the world will know that you sent me and have loved them even as you have loved me."

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   Posted 4/9/2007 6:47 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
One admittedly weird idea.... we'll continue to bring healing to all of creation, and the universe is a big place. There's no back-end boundary to the "X" pattern of history described in Hebrews and articulated by NT Wright.
 
I imagine bringing the music of God to distant galaxies. We'll learn to play the rings of Saturn or nebulae of Pisces! There's a right resonance intended for all, a music that was lost, colors that were forgotten, a healing to be done.

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