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feelinahole
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   Posted 2/1/2004 5:47 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
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Tom
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244 were trampled to death at this year's annual Hajj rituals in Mecca. Hajj Minister Maydani said in response:

“All precautions were taken to prevent such an incident, but this is God’s will. Caution isn’t stronger than fate." Now there's a consistent determinist for ya! Of course, caution IS fate, as is lack of caution. I remember reading Piper's piece on 9/11 a while back. He sounded just like Maydani, except he put "God" in the place of "fate."

Did you notice too that in his sermon, Sheik only said it was wrong for Muslim terrorists to kill other "Muslims." He never said it was wrong to kill non-Muslims. The ommission is intentional and theologically sound on his part. Jahad waged against non-Muslims is OK.

Tom
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feelinahole
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   Posted 2/1/2004 7:14 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Yeah, I caught that. What really bothered me was that line about "God's will." I'm sure HE is taking precautions so HE is protected (I guess its part of God's will that HE survies). According to the reports this stuff happens every year. How sad.
Yeah, he does sound a lot some of the determinist in the Christian camp.
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