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selah
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   Posted 6/15/2007 10:35 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.

This is how my friend makes good use of his free time...
 
 
 
 
icon_smile_kisses ~selah
 
 
 


"When one has once fully entered the realm of love, the world — no matter how imperfect — becomes rich and beautiful, it consists solely of opportunities for love."
~ Soren Kierkegaard

Post Edited (selah) : 6/17/2007 8:23:19 AM (GMT-5)

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Tom
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   Posted 6/15/2007 10:18 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Nice try, but no cigar. When we object to logical contradictions by appealing to the impossibility of square circles or round triangles and the like, we mean to say that that which constitutes triangularity cannot also be that which constitutes squareness, or circularity, etc. What your beau does is come up with a block that has all three shapes, but the shapes don't interfere with each other. They're not mutually constituative.

This will demonstrate the point. Notice that on the plane he holds he's got three separate opennings, one in the shape of a triangle, one a circle, and one a square. That he has to carve each shape into the face of the plane as THREE separate opennings proves my point. Have him do this. Have him come up with ONE openning on the plane (as opposed to three) and let that one openning be a triangle, a circle, and a square. THAT is impossible. THAT demonstrates the impossibility of square circles.

I think he's cute though!

Tom


 

Post Edited (MANY) : 6/15/2007 10:22:06 PM (GMT-5)

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selah
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   Posted 6/15/2007 10:50 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
hey Many...

You're right (of course) but shhhhhhhh ;-)

I knew the message was flawed too. I just didn't wanna entitle the thread "look what this cute guy does in his spare time".

No, it's much more fun to say "theologian of theologians" and get everyone excited. That way they expect something BIG...and click on the video clip.

So, just play along.... Besides, haven't we seen much worse from bonafide (and not as cute or creative!) theologians? icon_smile_kisses
 
love ya,
selah

Post Edited (selah) : 6/15/2007 11:01:22 PM (GMT-5)

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Tom
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   Posted 6/16/2007 8:32 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Selah: Besides, haven't we seen much worse from bonafide (and not as cute or creative!) theologians?

Tom: Stop talking about D! ;o)

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Similitude
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   Posted 6/16/2007 8:51 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Tom: When we object to logical contradictions by appealing to the impossibility of square circles or round triangles and the like, we mean to say that that which constitutes triangularity cannot also be that which constitutes squareness, or circularity, etc.

Jeff: He talked about not seeing "how" there could be a God or a creation of the universe. So he may not have been addressing logical contradictions, per se. Maybe he was just saying that there are possibilities that we haven't considered, and, therefore, we ought to approach these questions with a little humility. Whatever the case, he is, indeed, WAY cute.biggrin


 

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Sahid
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   Posted 6/16/2007 12:02 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Yeah, I liked the point about being open to possible unconsidered third ways. He kinda mixes that up with a bad argument about logical necessity though.


Watch me fly. Freedom like wings and I will use them. Freedom like wings and I will spread them wide. - Stavesacre

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Tom
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   Posted 6/16/2007 10:22 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
I yield! Not only is he cute, but the illustration does make a point, not that logical impossibilities ARE meaningful; they're not, but that sometimes what we struggle to to understand can be meaningful if we think outside the box.

Tom


 

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