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|  One Love Registered Member

Date Joined Jan 2003 Total Posts : 13888 | Posted 8/20/2007 6:10 PM (GMT -6) |   | Colossians 1:24-2:5
Now I rejoice in what I am suffering for you, and I fill up in my flesh what is still lacking in regard to Christ's afflictions, for the sake of his body, which is the church. I have become its servant by the commission God gave me to present to you the word of God in its fullness— the mystery that has been kept hidden for ages and generations, but is now disclosed to the Lord's people. To them God has chosen to make known among the Gentiles the glorious riches of this mystery, which is Christ in you, the hope of glory.
We proclaim him, admonishing and teaching everyone with all wisdom, so that we may present everyone fully mature in Christ. To this end I strenuously contend with all the energy Christ so powerfully works in me.
I want you to know how hard I am contending for you and for those at Laodicea, and for all who have not met me personally. My goal is that they may be encouraged in heart and united in love, so that they may have the full riches of complete understanding, in order that they may know the mystery of God, namely, Christ, in whom are hidden all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge.
What does this mean?
Christ, the firstborn over all Creation...
"Father, the hour has come. Glorify your Son, that your Son may glorify you. For you granted him authority over all people that he might give eternal life to all those you have given him. Now this is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent. I have brought you glory on earth by finishing the work you gave me to do. And now, Father, glorify me in your presence with the glory I had with you before the world began."
"Righteous Father, though the world does not know you, I know you, and they know that you have sent me. I have made you known to them, and will continue to make you known in order that the love you have for me may be in them and that I myself may be in them." Post Edited (Theoria) : 8/20/2007 6:13:03 PM (GMT-5) | | Back to Top | | |
  |  One Love Registered Member

Date Joined Jan 2003 Total Posts : 13888 | Posted 8/21/2007 2:47 PM (GMT -6) |   | Anyone? Tom? Bruce?
"Father, the hour has come. Glorify your Son, that your Son may glorify you. For you granted him authority over all people that he might give eternal life to all those you have given him. Now this is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent. I have brought you glory on earth by finishing the work you gave me to do. And now, Father, glorify me in your presence with the glory I had with you before the world began."
"Righteous Father, though the world does not know you, I know you, and they know that you have sent me. I have made you known to them, and will continue to make you known in order that the love you have for me may be in them and that I myself may be in them." | | Back to Top | | |
 |  PotOnWheel Registered Member

Date Joined Jul 2001 Total Posts : 9890 | Posted 8/21/2007 6:22 PM (GMT -6) |   | | Read what you posted.
Saw this in a bibliography somewhere: "Meyendorff, John, "New Life in Christ: Salvation in Orthodox Theology." Theological Studies. Vol. 50. 1989. pg. 481. (Professor at St. Vladimir's Orthodox Seminary explains that salvation in Orthodox theology is "union with Christ" in Theosis.)"
Read a homily by Chrysostom. http://www.newadvent.org/fathers/230305.htm
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 |  PotOnWheel Registered Member

Date Joined Jul 2001 Total Posts : 9890 | Posted 8/21/2007 6:27 PM (GMT -6) |   | Search for "Christ in you" on this site of a college I used to teach at:
http://wesley.nnu.edu/wesleyan_theology/theojrnl/36-40/WTJ%2038-2-c.pdf
Thus, Christ himself becomes our sanctification (1 Corinthians 1:30c).
“For in him the whole fullness of deity dwells bodily, and you have come
to fullness of life in him” (Colossians 2:9-10 RSV). This fullness, however,
is not a private, mystical, quietistic union with Christ. It is social; it
is life in the Body of Christ (1 Corinthians 12:12-27; Ephesians 2:21—
2:7; 4:4-16; Colossians 3:1-4, 11-17; cf. Hebrews 2:10-13). In the Body
of Christ—the koinonia of the Spirit—we discover the full meaning of
“Christ in you, the hope of glory” (Colossians 1:21-29).
To put the matter in fullest perspective we must add one further
word. Christ’s victory is complete but not final. We have been “saved in
hope”—the hope of resurrection and glorification with Christ (Romans
8:17-15; 1 Corinthians 15:22-28; Philippians 3:12-21). Meanwhile our
sanctification has the character of spiritual warfare in which our victory
over sin is assured as we permit Christ to live moment-by-moment in us
(John 15:1-6; Ephesians 6:10-15; Philippians 1:6; Colossians 1:18-23;
Romans 8:12-13, 26-39; Romans 13:11-14; Hebrews 7:25). This is the
practical meaning of Christus Victor for a theology of holiness. “Thanks
be to God, who gives us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ”—over
the dominion of sin in conversion, over sin itself in sanctification, over the
racial consequences of sin in glorification.
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 |  PotOnWheel Registered Member

Date Joined Jul 2001 Total Posts : 9890 | Posted 8/21/2007 6:33 PM (GMT -6) |   | FROM A GOARCH SITE I TRUST (Coniaris is trustworthy too!)
http://www.plasticsusa.com/ortho/etheosis.html
Achieving Your Potential in Christ: X Theosis X Plain Talks on a Major Doctrine of Orthodoxy After: Fr. Anthony M. Coniaris
"But God, who is rich in mercy, because of His great love with which He loved us, even when we were dead in trespasses, made us alive together with Christ, and raised us up together, and made us sit together in the heavenly places in Christ Jesus" (Ephesians 2:4-6).
"...Christ in you, the hope of glory" (Colossians 1:27). When Christ dwells in us, His presence creates a unique "hope of glory." Describing this "hope of glory," C.S. Lewis wrote in his book "The Weight of Glory": "The promise of scripture may very roughly be reduced to five heads... firstly, that we shall be with Christ; secondly, that we shall be like Him; thirdly... that we shall have 'glory'; fourthly, that we shall in some sense be fed or feasted or entertained; and finally, that we shall have some sort of official position in the universe - ruling cities, judging angels, being pillars of God's temple."
Truly, when we consider God's promise regarding theosis, "it does not yet appear what we shall be" (I John 3:2).
The author of Hebrews takes this a step further when he speaks of our share in or partaking "of the heavenly calling" (3:1), and he declares that we are made partakers of Christ and of the Holy Spirit. Finally, the Apostle Paul again affirms that those who rise in Christ will "put on" God's own incorruptible immortality.
St. Paul speaks of the fullness of God's presence abiding in us, when he prays, "The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the communion of the Holy Spirit be with you all" (II Corinthians 13:13).
All these verses constitute only a small part of the many references to theosis found in the scriptures.
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Date Joined Jul 2001 Total Posts : 9890 | Posted 8/29/2007 9:16 PM (GMT -6) |   | | | |
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