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Date Joined Jul 2001 Total Posts : 9890 | Posted 2/14/2008 5:20 PM (GMT -6) |   | | http://fatherstephen.wordpress.com/2008/02/14/the-mystery-of-salvation-2/
Got something out of this, and will read it again later too.
Salvation is truly the great mystery of human life. Essentially we are saying that the path from where we are now, in our sins, to where we shall be, conformed to the image of Christ, is as unknown to us as possible. We know the commandments of Christ, and our weakness both in keeping those commandments faithfully, as well as our weakness before temptation in almost any form. How do we get from here to there?
This is indeed the great mystery. The answer to the mystery is Christ Himself. In His death and resurrection His has made for all a path to salvation and there is no salvation outside of Him. That statement of doctrine may be more of a tautology than some casual readers realize, since salvation, in Christian terms, is, by definition, union with Christ. This is important for us to understand for our salvation is not an extrinsic reward - a ticket to heaven - but an inner transformation in which we are united with God, and through Him and the workings of His grace are changed into the fullness of what we are created to be.
The path of how we get from here to there is something like asking how do we go from one state of being to another? Again, the answer is Christ. But the answer is also, His Church. For in His Church, Christ has left us the vehicle of our salvation, the concrete means by which this transformation occurs in our lives.
Beginning with Baptism, we are plunged into the death of Christ and raised in the likeness of His resurrection - we are united to Him. The whole of our life in the Church is the living of this union with Christ. Every action we take within the Church, whether sacramental, or even casual and relational, is given to us for our salvation. I believe that even those members of the Body of Christ whom we find most annoying are also given to us for our salvation.
The path from here to there is a mystery. We do not know what is needed, on a moment by moment basis for our salvation other than to say that we need Christ. How we need Christ is the mystery. Sometimes I need Him as the one to whom I confess my sins. Sometimes I need Him as the one who comforts me in my sorrow. Sometimes I need Him as the one who brings me up short and causes me to see what I could not see before. Such a list is endless.
But most important in all of this is that it is a mystery: we do not know the answer to the question. We are not in charge of the process of our own salvation. God saves. By the same token, our own priest does not generally know what we need for our salvation. He knows the sacraments, the teachings of the Church, the commandments of Christ, but on a moment by moment basis, he knows no more than we do as to the details of the mystery.
And thus we all walk by faith, obeying Christ’s commandments as best we can - availing ourselves of the sacraments frequently, refraining from judging others for we do not know the path of their salvation either.
It is a life we live - and a life that we live by the grace of God.
I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me (Galatians 2:20).
Much of this is a statement of the obvious and of the simple. And yet, much of this seems to be forgotten by most on a daily basis. We either substitute some legal fiction for the reality of true salvation, or we mistakenly think that our salvation depends upon us, or we do not understand that everything in our life is given to us for our salvation (Romans 8:28). But, the mystery abides and remains, and is kind and generous enough to allow us to return to our senses from time to time.
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Date Joined Jul 2001 Total Posts : 9890 | Posted 2/14/2008 6:14 PM (GMT -6) |   |
... an inner transformation in which we are united with God, and through Him and the workings of His grace are changed into the fullness of what we are created to be.
... the answer is Christ. But the answer is also, His Church. For in His Church, Christ has left us the vehicle of our salvation, the concrete means by which this transformation occurs in our lives.
... The whole of our life in the Church is the living of this union with Christ. Every action we take within the Church, whether sacramental, or even casual and relational, is given to us for our salvation. I believe that even those members of the Body of Christ whom we find most annoying are also given to us for our salvation.
... we need Christ. How we need Christ is the mystery.
... And thus we all walk by faith, obeying Christ’s commandments as best we can - availing ourselves of the sacraments frequently, refraining from judging others for we do not know the path of their salvation either. It is a life we live - and a life that we live by the grace of God.
I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me (Galatians 2:20).
... everything in our life is given to us for our salvation (Romans 8:28). But, the mystery abides and remains, and is kind and generous enough to allow us to return to our senses from time to time. (o) | | Back to Top | | |
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Date Joined Jan 2003 Total Posts : 13888 | Posted 2/15/2008 9:23 AM (GMT -6) |   | The more I think about it...
Fallen humanity is Esau-ic.
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Genesis 25:29-34 shows him willingly and foolishly selling his birthright to Jacob[1] in exchange for a "mess of pottage" (meal of lentils). Some controversy has surrounded this scripture, in that some have noted that Esau may have been in danger of starving to death and was taken advantage of by Jacob in a vulnerable moment. Certainly, Jacob's refusal to share his food without exacting a high price from Esau is in conflict with Biblical principles for moral living such as charity and goodwill. However, others suggest that among the large entourage of Isaac's wealthy household, death from starvation would not likely have been a genuine danger simply on account of Esau not having caught anything while hunting that day. Owing to the strict law concerning draining the blood from an animal before eating it, Esau would not have expected to immediately eat what he killed and would probably have carried food while hunting.According to the Bible the food laws were given later to Moses. Rather, Esau's words about being close to death may have been dramatic exaggeration of the type frequently found in the Old Testament and that selling his birthright indicated Esau's lack of appreciation for the long-term value of such an intangible right when he was more interested in fulfilling his immediate needs.
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Denying their beautiful BIRTHRIGHT of DIVINE INHERITANCE...
...our eternally beautifying and satisfying relationship with Our Father...
for a merely momentary satisfaction of senses (a bowl of soup; "love of the world")
We have forgotten who we are.
Children of Divine Royalty.
Sad state...
In the Spirit of Christ, BE Christ to every "Christ" you see when you look at yourself and other human beings. "Insofar as you've done to the least of these..." Post Edited (Imago Dei) : 2/15/2008 10:11:36 AM (GMT-6) | | Back to Top | | |
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Date Joined Jan 2003 Total Posts : 13888 | Posted 2/15/2008 11:21 AM (GMT -6) |   | The self-understanding of a Spirit-Born(e) image of God:
"The Spirit of the Lord is on me, because he has anointed me to proclaim good news to the poor. He has sent me to proclaim freedom for the prisoners and recovery of sight for the blind, to set the oppressed free, to proclaim the year of the Lord's favor."
In being "Christ's continuing Incarnation", any "member" of Christ's Body being someone who is epicletically one with Christ, "body", "mind", and "spirit."
Hence...the signature below...
In the Spirit of Christ, BE Christ to every "Christ" you see when you look at yourself and other human beings. "Insofar as you've done to the least of these..." Post Edited (Imago Dei) : 2/15/2008 10:36:43 AM (GMT-6) | | Back to Top | | |
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Date Joined Jan 2003 Total Posts : 13888 | Posted 2/15/2008 11:26 AM (GMT -6) |   | "I am in the world to change the world" Käthe Kollwitz
We are co-liberators and co-creators of ourselves and others...perpetually transforming CHANGE AGENTS OF LOVE empowered by God's Spirit.
Bearers of God's Spirit.
And where God's Spirit "rests", there is Truth, Peace, Right-relatedness, Life and Freedom.
And that's why...
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"Blessed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
Blessed are those who mourn, for they will be comforted.
Blessed are the meek, for they will inherit the earth.
Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness, for they will be filled.
Blessed are the merciful, for they will be shown mercy.
Blessed are the pure in heart, for they will see God.
Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called children of God.
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Sounds just like...Good News...
God is Love.
In the Spirit of Christ, BE Christ to every "Christ" you see when you look at yourself and other human beings. "Insofar as you've done to the least of these..." Post Edited (Imago Dei) : 2/15/2008 10:38:49 AM (GMT-6) | | Back to Top | | |
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Date Joined Jan 2003 Total Posts : 13888 | Posted 2/15/2008 1:24 PM (GMT -6) |   | Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light, not our darkness that most frightens us. We ask ourselves, Who am I to be brilliant, gorgeous, talented, fabulous? Actually, who are you not to be? You are a child of God. Your playing small does not serve the world. There is nothing enlightened about shrinking so that other people won't feel insecure around you. We are all meant to shine, as children do. We were born to make manifest the glory of God that is within us. It is not just in some of us; it is in everyone. And as we let our own light shine, we unconsciously give other people permission to do the same. As we are liberated from our own fear, our presence automatically liberates others. Marianne Williamson
In the Spirit of Christ, BE Christ to every "Christ" you see when you look at yourself and other human beings. "Insofar as you've done to the least of these..." | | Back to Top | | |
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