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One Love
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| Posted 2/29/2008 9:27 AM (GMT -6) |   | The Jews answered him, "Aren't we right in saying that you are a Samaritan and demon-possessed?"
"I am not possessed by a demon," said Jesus, "but I honor my Father and you dishonor me. I am not seeking glory for myself; but there is one who seeks it, and he is the judge. Very truly I tell you, whoever obeys my word will never see death."
At this they exclaimed, "Now we know that you are demon-possessed! Abraham died and so did the prophets, yet you say that whoever obeys your word will never taste death. Are you greater than our father Abraham? He died, and so did the prophets. Who do you think you are?"
Jesus replied, "If I glorify myself, my glory means nothing. My Father, whom you claim as your God, is the one who glorifies me. Though you do not know him, I know him. If I said I did not, I would be a liar like you, but I do know him and obey his word. Your father Abraham rejoiced at the thought of seeing my day; he saw it and was glad."
"You are not yet fifty years old," they said to him, "and you have seen Abraham!"
"Very truly I tell you," Jesus answered, "before Abraham was born, I am!" At this, they picked up stones to stone him, but Jesus hid himself, slipping away from the temple grounds.
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Ok. We know that there was only one "Who" that said this: Christ-the-Logos. But this is what interests me. Everything that Christ did on the earth, he did through his fully human intelligible/sensible hypostatic unity (spirit/soul-body). This means that the "unity of consciousness" that was means of the communication and externalization of this personal truth was Jesus' human spirit/heart/nous: Christ-the-Logo's human "what". This "unity of consciousness" is where the sense of "I am" comes from. The center of self-consciousness, will, and choice.
The importance: It wasn't Christ-the-Logos (ONE PERSON) taking the place of Jesus' human spirit/heart/nous saying "before Abraham was born, I am" (the significance of NOT being Apollinarian) ...
it was Christ-the-Logos' (ONE PERSON) HUMAN ENERGY (human noetic powers) that, fully participating in the Holy Spirit (as he had since conception, because of the Incarnation! ) proclaimed the truth of divine personal energy ("Before Abe was, I am" ) in and through a HUMAN VESSEL (Jesus' human spirit, mind, and mouth.).
The conviction with which Jesus spoke his words...the absolute DEPTH with which his human heart IDENTIFIED with the eternality of God...convinced everyone that he was indeed a blasphemer. And a crazy one at that. How could a human like them who was not even "fifty years old" REALLY BELIEVE in his own eternality? He must be demon possessed...and a Samaritan. He's better off dead.
Where's the friggin stones at? 
Anyways...
Just a thought.
In the Spirit of Christ, BE Christ to every "Christ" you see when you look at yourself and other human beings. "Insofar as you've done to the least of these..." Post Edited ("I am-in-I Am") : 2/29/2008 8:50:22 AM (GMT-6) | | Back to Top | | |
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One Love
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| Posted 2/29/2008 11:07 AM (GMT -6) | | I'm assuming that this is what is generally described above is what is meant by the enanthropesis of God the Logos, incarnating and expressing Uncreated divine reality in and through created order energy. God the Logos, the second PERSON of the Trinity, by the power of the Holy Spirit, actually becoming a true human being (spirit, soul, body)...while the TWO energies (human and divine, linked with human spirit and Holy Spirit) in the ONE Incarnate Word remains completely distinct in an inseparable interpenetration of one another. Divine life shares in human experience, even unto spiritual death ("My God, My God! Why have You forsaken Me?)
What does this mean for it's reciprocal, theosis?
How about this? Created order energy (including human intangible, intelligible aspect of the human hypostatic unity [intelligible/sensible] ) , by the power of the Holy Spirit, can fully participate in the uncreated divine energies of God the Logos (to the point of being differentially unified as if "one spirit", "one mind", and "one flesh" with Christ's divine humanity) while the human spirit and Holy Spirit in one human being can be completely distinct, yet in an inseparable interpenetration of one another. Human energy (human spirit) can share in Christ's divine life, even unto being "God's Child" and "God's Anointed". Adopted into Christ...totally and completely.
As the human energies (spirit, soul, body) "indwells" Christ by the omnipresent Holy Spirit, it shares in the divine life of Christ's divine humanity BY GRACE that which the Only Begotten Christ has BY NATURE.
Feedback. Is this making sense?
In the Spirit of Christ, BE Christ to every "Christ" you see when you look at yourself and other human beings. "Insofar as you've done to the least of these..." Post Edited ("I am-in-I Am") : 2/29/2008 5:54:34 PM (GMT-6) | | Back to Top | | |
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One Love
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| Posted 2/29/2008 6:54 PM (GMT -6) | | | Dang. Is it that uninteresting, now?
LOL 
In the Spirit of Christ, BE Christ to every "Christ" you see when you look at yourself and other human beings. "Insofar as you've done to the least of these..." | | Back to Top | | |
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