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PotOnWheel
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   Posted 3/14/2008 4:18 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Lenten Q & A, No. 1
 
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Lenten Questions, No. 1

Q: Why do I have to say that I am a sinner, "of whom I am the first"? Especially so often during Lent?

A: Mainly to keep you from using this word as a label.

"Sinner” cannot be used as a label, because labels are used to mystify people, and to gain power over them. Labels are used as spells to objectify people as elements of one’s own subjective Tower of Babel, or ongoing revolution. The Marxists have done this with Newspeak: Eurocrats do this with Eurospeak. We do no less in our own private politics whenever we act on our own policy statements and organize the world according to our own plans -- and in so doing, we make "sinner" a most dangerous word.

But the word “sinner” is a good word only if the speaker first sees himself not only as one of these, but as the chief of these. This demotion of self prevents the soul from using this dangerous word as the very worst of "newspeaks," in which people are dehumanized and objectified into stepping stones on the way up some evolutionary or dialectical ladder – or, worse yet, in which the art of the icon is no longer recognized in the person beside you, and you use him as part of your plan for self-promotion.

Overuse and vain repetition has rendered the sound of the word, or its appearance, void of content. To shock myself back into the offense of the term, I have tried replacing it occasionally with the word "failure." As in "Have mercy on me, O God, a failure." "Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me, a failure."

A failure, that is, at human nature, at the demands of all nature, at the Natural Law, let alone the Royal Law of Love. A chooser of the corrosive side of Grace, a shunner of God, a runner from the fish at Tarshish, a spiller of salt, a pillar of salt, a denier, a crier of embarrassment, shock at being caught. A defacer of image, a shirker of likeness. A failure. There, now, I've remembered the meaning again. A sinner.

You see, when I see anyone else, I forget the meaning, the internal side of sinner, and I hurl the hypocrisy of the word at the other. It is a lie when used thus, or newspeak.

This worst of newspeaks is called, as you might have guessed, “judgmentalism,” the inspiration of all bureaucracies since it hails from the lowest, most basic, one.


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   Posted 3/14/2008 6:02 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
freaked I don't get it...from another site...

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   Posted 3/14/2008 8:18 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Sinning <=> "ego tripping"?

(No offense, Snoop.  It was YOUR album title! ) smilewinkgrin


Whoever knows and recognizes how near God’s Kingdom is to him may say with Jacob, “God is in this place, and I knew it not.”
Meister Eckhart, "The Nearness of the Kingdom"

Once, having been asked by the Pharisees when the kingdom of God would come, Jesus replied, "The coming of the kingdom of God is not something that can be observed, nor will people say, 'Here it is,' or 'There it is,' because the Kingdom of God is within you.

 

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   Posted 3/17/2008 11:07 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Not sure where that gets us.... we now have as phrase used as a "label".

peace, don


The world's perfect, wouldn't change a thing.
 

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   Posted 3/17/2008 1:45 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.

QUOTE:      "Labels are used as spells to objectify people . . . the word “sinner” is a good word only if the speaker first sees himself . . . as the chief of these."


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   Posted 3/17/2008 2:24 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
"Labels are used as spells to objectify people . . . the word “sinner” is a good word only if the speaker first sees himself . . . as the chief of these."

Exactly. And one thing I know...I'm the "chief" of ego tripping (egocentric, ego defensive, emotional responses and reactions, etc). When my ego takes over, look out! It's literally my deepest personal struggle every moment, especially being a recovering sufferer (by God's Grace) of Narcissitic Personality tendencies.  (It truly IS a mental health issue for many people.)

So, I guess the term works for me.


Whoever knows and recognizes how near God’s Kingdom is to him may say with Jacob, “God is in this place, and I knew it not.”
Meister Eckhart, "The Nearness of the Kingdom"

Once, having been asked by the Pharisees when the kingdom of God would come, Jesus replied, "The coming of the kingdom of God is not something that can be observed, nor will people say, 'Here it is,' or 'There it is,' because the Kingdom of God is within you.

 

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   Posted 3/17/2008 5:25 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.

http://janotec.typepad.com/terrace/2008/03/lenten-questi-1.html

Lenten Questions, No. 2

Q: Why should I pay attention to icons?

A: Icons are better than photographs.

. . . (more) . . .
 



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   Posted 3/18/2008 5:10 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.

FROM #2:

. . .

An Icon is not an idol – but what it is is something that strains understanding even more. We are too used to this truism we employ against jejune accusations of idolatry: in our careful iconodulism, we usually forget that all art is rhetoric. And because of the Incarnation, Orthodox art participates in the Divine Rhetoric: it participates in the Word and the Grammar of the Word. Canonical iconography is touched by the Everlasting: and thus its “word” is not static, neither is it a dead letter or a shriveled totem: it is an ongoing sentence, even a dialogue. This is the meaning of the trite “windows into heaven” epithet. It is better to say that Orthodox icons are Christological Speech, in art, that demands repentance, acquiescence, obedience, and – hardest of all – belief, from the impressed heart of man.

Why pay attention to icons? Because through them and above them, God is paying attention to you.


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   Posted 3/19/2008 5:38 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.

Another:

Lenten Questions, No. 3

Q: What are tears?

A: Ah.

. . .


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   Posted 3/19/2008 12:53 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
An idol is an idol


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   Posted 3/19/2008 6:39 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
An idol is an idol
Yes, and idol is an idol. Simon, Randy and Paula confirm.
 
But an icon is not an idol. An icon is "theology in color." The CROSS in Ravenna, Italy that symbolizes Christ on Mt. Tabor (the three disciples are symbolized by sheep, and Moses and Elijah play themselves) is chosen for the sake of preaching--in color--the theological truth that Christ is glorified not merely in a display of divinity (which only those with "eyes to see" could), but, in fact, in the entirety of the Passion of the Cross. That's pointedly theological.
 
This is why iconography, true iconography, is so concervative. Some things are done wrong, while what is right has its reason behind it: the icon of Mary holding Jesus symbolizes the incarnation and the image of Christ holding the book of life symbolizes the second coming and judgement. Very specific stuff.


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   Posted 3/20/2008 3:34 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.

Lenten Questions, No. 4

Q: What is the meaning of life?

A: There is an answer to this cliché, to this question that is rarely meant seriously, and even more infrequently taken as a meaningful subject of inquiry.

. . . (CLICK ABOVE TO READ THE ARTICLE) . . .


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   Posted 4/16/2008 6:43 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
It's up to nine or ten now.

You can follow the other links and browse a bit if you are drawn to.


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