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Sahid
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   Posted 5/15/2008 5:26 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
I've had him muted for a while now. He'll stay muted either way.


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   Posted 5/15/2008 10:07 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Love that pic Laika! LOL! Look at the dork with the black leather head cover...LOL! That's hilarious!

Regardless, maybe Corey, D and Feel'n can have a little pow-wow and find out what was up with that remark and from there you may be able to get a better feel (ha! pun!) for how you might want to proceed with the situation. Like Tom though, I think it would be better to see something more productive than simply a one liner here and there that really doesn't tell you much. That kinda stuff should change.

Second, I don't know if casting a vote is something **I** should be a part of seeing as the sentiment that Feel'n expressed cut someone of another race pretty deeply but also because of the issue itself. That's not something you really take votes over.

Think about it…look at the title of this thread. I’m sure he was a little frustrated by that.


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   Posted 5/15/2008 10:13 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
My thoughts.

Feelin's posts was what it was. It did bother me, no doubt. At the same time, I've pretty much come to the conclusion that this is just what Feelin' does. (Sad to say) I'm with Tom in sentiment. I trust you to do what's best to preserve the integrity of the community created here, Corey. You've done an excellent job thus far! ;-)


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Once, having been asked by the Pharisees when the kingdom of God would come, Jesus replied, "The coming of the kingdom of God is not something that can be observed, nor will people say, 'Here it is,' or 'There it is,' because the Kingdom of God is within you.

 

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   Posted 5/15/2008 10:16 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Brandon:
Think about it…look at the title of this thread. I’m sure he was a little frustrated by that.

On the title..."Something Some White People Don't Like..."

Tom had created a thread right before then called "Stuff White People Like"

I took off that title...amending it to suit the subject. (Adding the words "some" to qualify "White People"...and "don't" to qualify the "like" )

It was using an idea that HAPPENED to be there from Tom...as a creative springboard.

Make sense?


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Once, having been asked by the Pharisees when the kingdom of God would come, Jesus replied, "The coming of the kingdom of God is not something that can be observed, nor will people say, 'Here it is,' or 'There it is,' because the Kingdom of God is within you.

 

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Corey
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   Posted 5/16/2008 4:57 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Brandon: That's not something you really take votes over.
D: I trust you to do what's best to preserve the integrity of the community created here, Corey.

Corey: My point with the votes thing was just to have some feedback loop or appeals path if enough people (whatever that would mean) thought I was being too harsh. However, even in retrospect I don't get the sense, either externally or internally, that I was out of line in my decision to boot him, at least for now. That being said, the door to reconciliation is always open.


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   Posted 5/16/2008 7:42 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
I am-In-I am said:
 
On the title..."Something Some White People Don't Like..."

Tom had created a thread right before then called "Stuff White People Like"

I took off that title...amending it to suit the subject. (Adding the words "some" to qualify "White People"...and "don't" to qualify the "like" )

It was using an idea that HAPPENED to be there from Tom...as a creative springboard.

Make sense?
 
Brandon: Understood.  On the other hand, when he reads stuff LIKE, "I'm tired of conforming to Euro-American upper-middle to middle-class sensibilities all the time." yada, yada, yada, he probably got a little tired of the complain'n (I don't know if he read it or not, he may have heard sentiments like this by virtue of simply living in America).  Now, I can take sarcastic jibes of white-anglo saxon culture in the vein of Tom's thread better than I can more serious feedback like that in this thread. Not only is this thread a more serious poke but one can't help but hear a tinge of bitterness toward not only white culture but white PEOPLE.  If you are not bitter AT ALL, I not only say, "Fine" but "Wow.  That has to be the Lord!"  :-)  But the perception gets conveyed by the one-too-many sentiments expressed.


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   Posted 5/16/2008 8:51 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
BBBCanada said...
Probably best to hear him out before putt'n him on the chopping block.
I agree, Brandon!
 
Boot'n Feelin reminds me of the empty church that kicked out all the sinners. 
 

Tigress posted the following poem that I think rings true for all racial tensions:

 

"If the white racists blamed all the non-whites for the world's problems and so killed them all,
they'd then have to turn the blame on lower-class whites.
Once they were all dead, they'd have to blame someone else, so they'd kill all the whites with disabilities.
Once they were gone they'd have to kill all the whites who had dark hair and eyes.
Once they were gone, they'd have to kill all the whites who weren't intelligent enough.
Once they were gone they'd have to kill the whites who lived far away.
Then they'd have to kill the whites who weren't in their own community.
Then they'd have to kill the whites who weren't kin.
Then they'd have to kill all the "weaker" whites so all the women would be killed.
Then all the imperfect male whites would have to be killed, until one day only one man was left.
"Ah, now the world is perfect," he delluded himself.
For he failed to see that all the world's problems started from within himself. Once there's no one left to blame, we're faced with the reality that we must take personal responsibility for how things are in the world or else we'll be left all alone and pitiful."
 
http://www.opentheismboard.org/default.aspx?f=6&p=2&m=7548.


The quintessential mindset of a madman is unveiled in the likes of Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche.

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Corey
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   Posted 5/16/2008 9:52 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Mark: Boot'n Feelin reminds me of the empty church that kicked out all the sinners.

Corey: Not a fair remark. Not at all.


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   Posted 5/16/2008 10:47 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Corey said...
Mark: Boot'n Feelin reminds me of the empty church that kicked out all the sinners.
Corey: Not a fair remark. Not at all.
 
You solicit for my opinion and then call foul when I give it.   I’m sorry. 
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Corey
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   Posted 5/16/2008 10:51 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Honestly... is there ANY sense in which I've "kicked out all the sinners"?


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   Posted 5/16/2008 10:53 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Corey said...
Honestly... is there ANY sense in which I've "kicked out all the sinners"?

There was a time when this board flourished with diverse prospectives.

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Corey
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   Posted 5/16/2008 11:04 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
And it's not so because of me?! I "kicked out all the sinners"!? Come on... just throw me a bone here. You know that's not fair.


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Sahid
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   Posted 5/16/2008 11:05 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Feelin complained that racism was being blown out of proportion. (It wasn't; Dwayne gave concrete examples).

Now Mark says that booting Feelin reminds him of kicking out all the sinners from a church.

Who is blowing what out of proportion?


It's the groundless claims and the thoughtlessness they betray which bothers me. This is often the root cause of things like racism.


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   Posted 5/16/2008 11:20 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Corey said...
And it's not so because of me?! I "kicked out all the sinners"!? Come on... just throw me a bone here. You know that's not fair.
Boot’n all the sinners was not directed towards you personally, Corey, it was in the context of Tigress’s poem. You do a great job keeping this board going, thanks.
 
In the past people have complained of the special elite group here on the board, the Safe Haven comes to mind as a way to escape those that held differing opinions.  We also have the ability to ignore folks if we choose.
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   Posted 5/16/2008 11:49 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Sahid said...
Feelin complained that racism was being blown out of proportion. (It wasn't; Dwayne gave concrete examples).

Now Mark says that booting Feelin reminds him of kicking out all the sinners from a church.

Who is blowing what out of proportion?

It's the groundless claims and the thoughtlessness they betray which bothers me. This is often the root cause of things like racism
.

One thing I will say in Feelin’s defense, he didn’t posit that realty was trapped behind language.


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Sahid
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   Posted 5/16/2008 11:53 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Huh? Who did? Me? Dwayne? Corey? What could that even mean?


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