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One Love
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   Posted 11/23/2008 9:03 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
http://www.opentheismboard.org/pr.aspx?f=5&m=95767
 
I found this "diggin' in the crates" as it were.
 
Good convo, I thought.

Here was a dialogical quote from it...updated...

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Tom:
The key hermeneutical issue is how we are to understand Christ as paradigmatic for all divine-human relationality. What’s unique, or sui generis, about the ‘hypostatic union’ (the union of divine and human natures in the one ‘hypostasis’ or ‘person’ of Christ)? What on the other hand is paradigmatic? In other words, in what sense is the ‘human’ in Christ representative of what all human beings are destined for.

The "singularity" (utter uniqueness) of Christ is the fact that he IS the Archetype. It's like what Nesteruk said. Nesteruk, page 243, "Humanity as Hypostatis of the Universe" about the ULTIMATE DIFFERENTIATION between Christ and the rest of humanity.

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Christ, our idea about Christ, is the perfect model by reference to which we can answer the question about who we are. He is the man, "the first-born of every creature," (Col. 1:15), the archetype of which every human being is, in terms of his or her potentialities, the image. The difference between Christ and us is that Christ is eternally God's son, while we are God's sons because we are created in the image of Christ's divine humanity. To be a son of God is to have the Divine as the determining element of our being, that is, to be inherent in the divine hypostasis (Note: God the Son/Logos). It is precisely this that makes us human and that constitutes our humanity. To the degree to which we fail to attain a full realization of this, we fail to be human.

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Christ is THE "one man" upon whom ALL CREATION was based. He is THE Archetype of God's Image...and we are all "images of the Image." His Sonship was DIRECT and came from no human "begetting". We are "sons in the Son" because we are "created in the image of Christ's divine humanity."


God is love. Whoever lives in love lives in God, and God in them.

"I love, therefore I am in I Am."

Post Edited (One Love) : 11/23/2008 8:15:55 AM (GMT-6)

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One Love
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   Posted 11/24/2008 3:57 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Bruce.

Thanks for putting me on to Eastern Orthodoxy over all these years, bro.

ThankyouThankyouThankyouThankyouThankyouThankyouThankyouThankyouThankyou.

Inexpressible gratitude.

;-)


God is love. Whoever lives in love lives in God, and God in them.

"I love, therefore I am in I Am."

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PotOnWheel
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   Posted 11/27/2008 10:09 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.

Yep.  Good thread.

But I'll take Fr. Stephen over your friend Greg's pro-Harnack troubles.


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