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|  CalvinnHobbes Registered Member

Date Joined Jan 2003 Total Posts : 88 | Posted 12/13/2008 1:33 AM (GMT -6) |   |
Many Christians past and present have considered God to be atemporal/eternal. In other words, God stands completely outside of time and doesn't undergo or experience any change or duration/time of any kind whatsoever. Some of these thinkers have held that God forever remains atemporal (e.g., those following Augustine, Aquinas, Calvin, etc.). Some of them consider God to be atemporal in the absence of creation, but temporal from the point of creation on (I think especially of contemporary apologist/philosopher William Lane Craig).
What do we make of an atemporal intra-trinitarian relationship? I can at least make some sense of an atemporal intra-trinitarian relation, but I struggle to find any such thing worthy of the term relationship. I suspect such a God would make a better triangle than a trinity. What is an atemporal, static relationship that lacks any sort of relating? The quick answer, I suppose, is that I'm asking questions well beyond my pay grade here, but I'd like to probe a bit deeper.
Thoughts? "There is no fit search after truth which does not, first of all, begin to live the truth which it knows." ~Horace Bushnell | | Back to Top | | |
  |  Similitude Registered Member
 Date Joined Apr 2004 Total Posts : 4968 | Posted 12/13/2008 11:24 AM (GMT -6) |   | | C&H: What do we make of an atemporal intra-trinitarian relationship?
Jeff: I can't make any sense of it all. To me, the most fundamental thing about persons is consciousness. But I have no idea what consciousness even means without the relations before and after. I have no categories to even conceive of it. Thus, atemporal consciousness is a meaningless phrase to me. There is a reason why philosophers speak of a "stream" of consciousness. | | Back to Top | | |
  |  PotOnWheel Registered Member

Date Joined Jul 2001 Total Posts : 9890 | Posted 12/14/2008 6:36 AM (GMT -6) |   | | | |
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