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PotOnWheel
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   Posted 3/21/2009 9:35 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.

Good quote in review about 'The Shack':

...the Shack is really bad especially at the point where Young tries to be so good. He wants to discuss the Trinity in response to tragedy, which I think is a good pastoral endeavor. However, his Trinitarian doctrine becomes a hypermodernist icon of egalitarianism and deconstruction. "Submission" is redefined as mutual self-denial (which is true), but a denial that is limited and made meaningless by a renunciation of obedience and hierarchy (which is not true).

And in a review by another writer:  

Young teaches that the Trinity exists entirely without hierarchy and that any kind of hierarchy is the result of sin. The Trinity, he says, “are in a circle of relationship, not a chain of command or ‘great chain of being’… Hierarchy would make no sense among us.” Now it’s possible that he is referring to a kind of dominance or grade or command structure that may well be foreign to the godhead. But a reading of the Bible will prove that hierarchy does, indeed, exist even where there is no sin. After all, the angels exist in a hierarchy and have done so since before the Fall. Also, in heaven there will be degrees of reward and there will be some who are appointed to special positions (such as the Apostles). And the Bible makes it clear that there is some kind of hierarchy even within the Trinity. The Spirit and the Son have submitted themselves to the Father. The task of the Spirit is to lead people to the Son who in turn brings glory to the Father. Never do we find the Father submitting to the Spirit or to the Son. Their hierarchy is perfect—without anger or malice or envy, but it is a hierarchy nonetheless.


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PotOnWheel
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   Posted 3/21/2009 9:41 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.

Another review:

...for now, I will add the book's defacement of the Father as Source and Principal of the Trinity. I will also add the book's emphasis on change and becoming in the essential experience of the Trinity, including that of the Father. Finally (for now) I would point to the very fact of the book's depiction of the Trinity's inner experience. We may think only of the Trinity's energetic procession: we may not dare to look behind the veil, because our minds will naturally fail and degenerate into fantasia, which is exactly what this book experienced. The Shack is an unwitting digest of the genesis of heresy, from temptation, to desire, to coupling, to consummation, to birth.


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Tom
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   Posted 3/21/2009 10:55 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Leave it to theologians to be unable to just enjoy an autobiographical book and be blessed by it. I cried my way through the whole book. Was really changed by it. Shared it with a lot of people. Loved the imagery. Nobody's view of the Trinity is airtight. Let's cut the man some slack.

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