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Similitude
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Posted 11/23/2009 7:22 AM (GMT -6)

And an "end" implies a point in time when the goal is ATTAINED. Thus, any aspect of any state that endures forever is, to my mind, a side effect rather than an end of creation. The end of creation is some quantity and/or quality of FINITE pleasure derived from it. All else is a side-effect of God's nature.

By analogy, there are reasons why I obtain dogs. They ultimately have to do with my sentient states. But my dogs are treated very well; not because how I treat them is the goal of my obtaining them, but because I just DO LOVE DOGS. Thus, my benevolent treatment of dogs over and beyond their needs is a SOFA that has nothing to do with why I get them. I get them for very practical reasons--primarily as watch dogs. I really wouldn't choose to spend time on one for any other reason. But once I have them, my affection just does its thang.

might-be-don
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Posted 11/26/2009 10:33 AM (GMT -6)

Just a thought... If we find no need for a literal Adam and Eve, do we find ourselves without a pre/post fall to deal with? Isn't our own side into judgement what is really being accounted for?

peace, don

^{The world's perfect, wouldn't change a thing.}

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