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PotOnWheel
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| Posted 4/6/2004 12:11 PM (GMT -6) |   | Great and Holy Tuesday
Troparion in tone 8
Behold the Bridegroom comes at midnight,
And blessed is the servant whom He shall find watching,
And again unworthy is the servant whom He shall find heedless.
Beware, therefore, O my soul, do not be weighed down with sleep,
Lest you be given up to death and lest you be shut out of the Kingdom.
But rouse yourself crying: Holy, Holy, Holy, are You, O our God!
Through the Theotokos have mercy on us!
Kontakion in tone 2
You know that this is the last hour, O wretched soul,
And fear the cutting of the fig tree.
Work diligently therefore at the talent given to you
Keep watch and pray:
Let us not remain outside the bridal chamber of Christ. | | Back to Top | | |
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PotOnWheel
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| Posted 4/6/2004 1:07 PM (GMT -6) | | A friend of mine sent me this.
Its from the Book of Common Prayer:
Collect for tuesday in Holy Week, Book of Common Prayer
O God, by the passion of your blessed Son you made an instrument of shameful death to be for us the means of life: Grant us so to glory in the cross of Christ, that we may gladly suffer shame and loss for the sake of your Son our Savior Jesis Christ; who lives and reigns with you and the Holy Spirit, one God, fore ever and ever. Amen.
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1Heart
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| Posted 4/6/2004 10:42 PM (GMT -6) | | quote:
Originally posted by PotOnWheel
Great and Holy Tuesday
Troparion in tone 8
Behold the Bridegroom comes at midnight,
And blessed is the servant whom He shall find watching,
And again unworthy is the servant whom He shall find heedless.
Beware, therefore, O my soul, do not be weighed down with sleep,
Lest you be given up to death and lest you be shut out of the Kingdom.
But rouse yourself crying: Holy, Holy, Holy, are You, O our God!
Through the Theotokos have mercy on us!
Kontakion in tone 2
You know that this is the last hour, O wretched soul,
And fear the cutting of the fig tree.
Work diligently therefore at the talent given to you
Keep watch and pray:
Let us not remain outside the bridal chamber of Christ.
Pow,
Would you like to share your thoughts on this with us? How does this apply to our lives?
Jo-Anne 
"Sometimes all we can do is go back to the character of God, and drop anchor there."
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PotOnWheel
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| Posted 4/7/2004 12:47 PM (GMT -6) | | quote:
Originally posted by moon_river_j
Pow,Would you like to share your thoughts on this with us? How does this apply to our lives?
Jo-Anne
YES!
Let me make a few phrases color-coded. That helps me, considering my learning style. (I'm not ADD, but I can help mys students who are. I'm pretty visual, so I understand non-linear thought pretty well, and appreciate its strengths as well as "respect" its limitations.)
So, here's what I "see."
quote:
Great and Holy Tuesday
Troparion in tone 8
Behold the Bridegroom comes at midnight.
And blessed is the servant whom He shall find watching,
And again unworthy is the servant whom He shall find heedless.
Beware, therefore, O my soul, do not be weighed down with sleep,
Lest you be given up to death and lest you be shut out of the Kingdom.
But rouse yourself crying: Holy, Holy, Holy, are You, O our God!
Through the Theotokos have mercy on us!
Kontakion in tone 2
You know that this is the last hour, O wretched soul,
And fear the cutting of the fig tree.
Work diligently therefore at the talent given to you
Keep watch and pray:
Let us not remain outside the bridal chamber of Christ.
This is liturgy: Just think "hymn text" that goes along with the Gospel narratives and the Prophets foretelling and illumination of the coming of our salvation in the Death and Resurrection of Christ.
Looking that what I made blue, we see in Christ's parable of the Ten Virgins (This came from a website with an icon that very simply had Christ approaching the door, and ten virgins inside--nearer us than the door--with five of them with lit lamps, and five untended lamps. Simple.)
Lent began as only a few days leading up to Easter, to get us ready. Christians live "now and not yet" and therefore, recognizing God's eternity, know that while the Resurrection was IN HISTORY it also applies ACROSS HISTORY, and is the foretaste of what is BEYOND HISTORY. So, the Orthodoxy, in their hymns, say "TODAY" Christ is born, or "TODAY" Christ is baptized, or "TODAY" Christ is Risen, etc. What they mean is that the reality of it is not something come and gone. Rather, it is for today. And by the Spirit it is a reality MORESO than things that will pass away.
So, the parable of the Ten Virgins is an apt one, and one that we CAN and SHOULD relate to in examining ourselves, and in goading ourselves on in preparation for Easter.
Rather than approaching Easter as a bunch of individuals, we need to prepare ourselves together. Rather then be like a bunch of cats with someone trying to herd them, the Church has ONE Head and is one Body.
So we remind ourselves and eachother, that: the Bridegroom comes at midnight. There is a deadline. For each of us we don't know the hour of our own death. And as a whole, we don't know the hour of his coming. But in the spiritual exercise of getting ready for the Lords's Day each week, and Easter/Pascha each year, we train ourselves and form teamwork in being ever vigilant!!!
The hymn says: Beware, therefore, O my soul, do not be weighed down with sleep. That can happen. Jobs can be a slumber. Cointesty relations. Aspirations, ambitions, worries, doubts. "The hour" is a unique thing, humanly. My grandfather--born in 1879--used to say: "Time will pass...will you?" But my father--born in 1922--used to say: "The good thing about deadlines is that they do pass."
Christ does not require us to have the strength on our own. But He does offer the strength in two ways that are really not divided but work jointly: The Spirit and his Body. Deadlines pass. But our salvation is accomplished only by Christ and in Christ and for Christ. We aim towards the goal, and He will meet us. We raise up our struggles and hold up our pains, weaknesses, and limits, and his nail pierced hands carry the weight, while encorporating our willing effort into the victorious altar to God. (1 Cor 15)
So we say to ourselves and eachother: "rouse yourself -- GET UP, GET GOING! And as the hymn says, our job...the job that both accomplishes and remakes us as we do it, is to cry: Holy, Holy, Holy, are You, O our God!" Wanting to Go to heaven, we join in the job of heaven. (Rev. 4:8)
The hymn ends: Let us not remain outside the bridal chamber of Christ. We are a unified WHOLE, the inside and outside of ourselves. the preparation we do over time affects the moment; and each moment affest us over time. Being "outside" in the above seems to refer to our insides. In our HEART--and our shole life that comes along inseparabley with it, let us delight to dwell in the house of the Lord -- as David said!
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quest for truth
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| Posted 4/7/2004 10:49 PM (GMT -6) | | | Thank you POW! You brought those words to life for me. It really helped to hear what you had to say. You are a great teacher! | | Back to Top | | |
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PotOnWheel
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| Posted 4/8/2004 6:00 PM (GMT -6) | | I was collecting these verses from an Orthodox liturgy. They are for reading tonight--as anticipation for tomorrow, and to chronicle the DOINGS that happened between the supper and the grave. All TWELVE are from the Gospels.
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FIRST GOSPEL -- John. 13:31-18:1
SECOND GOSPEL -- John 18:1-28
THIRD GOSPEL -- Matthew 26:57-75
FOURTH GOSPEL -- John 18:28-19:16
FIFTH GOSPEL -- Matt. 27:3-32
SIXTH GOSPEL -- Mark 15:16-32
SEVENTH GOSPEL -- Matt. 27:33-54
EIGHTH GOSPEL -- Luke 23:32-49
NINTH GOSPEL -- John 19:25-37
TENTH GOSPEL -- Mark 15:43-47
ELEVENTH GOSPEL -- John 19:38-42
TWELFTH GOSPEL -- Matt. 27:62-66
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"On the evening of Holy Thursday, the service of Matins is celebrated, during which twelve selections from the Gospels are read, each relating the arrest, trial and crucifixion of Christ. In many parishes, a procession with an image of the crucified Christ takes place during this service."
Ending with this, Dismissal:
"Priest: Glory to you, Christ God, our hope, glory to you.
Reader: Glory to the Father, and to the Son, and to the Holy Spirit; both now and for ever, and to the ages of ages. Amen. Lord, have mercy. Lord, have mercy. Lord, have mercy. Father, give the blessing.
Priest: May he who endured spittings, scourges, blows, the Cross and death for the salvation of the world, Christ our true God, through the prayers of his all-pure and holy Mother, by the power of the precious and life-giving Cross, through the intercessions of the holy, glorious and all-praised Apostles, [of Saint N. (to whom the Church is dedicated), of Saint N., whose memory we keep today,] and of all the Saints, have mercy on us and save us, for he is good and loves mankind.Through the prayers of our holy fathers, Lord Jesus Christ, our God, have mercy upon us.
People: Amen.
The WHOLE service is here: www.anastasis.org.uk/HWFri-M.htm
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Truth Aficionado
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| Posted 4/8/2004 6:06 PM (GMT -6) | | quote:
Originally posted by PotOnWheel
I was collecting these verses from an Orthodox liturgy. They are for reading tonight--as anticipation for tomorrow, and to chronicle the DOINGS that happened between the supper and the grave. All TWELVE are from the Gospels.
POW, does the Orthodox Church practice any "washing of the feet" as part of their service? | | Back to Top | | |
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PotOnWheel
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| Posted 4/9/2004 3:43 AM (GMT -6) | | quote:
Originally posted by sparknheart
POW, does the Orthodox Church practice any "washing of the feet" as part of their service?
YES. See the first paragraph in this: www.oca.org/pages/orth_chri/orthodox-faith/worship/Holy-Thursday.html
BTW - My motherinlaw grew up Swiss Mennonite, and married a CGGC pastor. Both of those traditions do footwashing EVERY time they take communion. So that's my wife's background. | | Back to Top | | |
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