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Tom
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Posted 5/2/2012 3:14 PM (GMT -6)

There are a number of interesting video interviews with Hart here: https://publicchristianity.org/library/the-new-atheists-and-an-ugly-god

This one is especially interesting because it touches on Greg's upcoming book on the violent God.

Tom

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Similitude
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Posted 5/23/2012 6:57 PM (GMT -6)

I find it interesting that, in the video on the problem of evil/suffering, he says there's some sense in which reality is "fallen." In that sense, he is in agreement with Greg. But once you concede that much, the OT violence (or the NT incidents) is not problematic. For they can be episodes that, by lowering epistemic distance, prolong the length of the project. For once we see the project being prolonged despite the "fallenness" of it, it is not implausible to infer that there must be some utilitarian value to prolonging it. And once we're into a utilitarianism (the kind where no is worse of for God's interventions into otherwise regular event sequences) entailed in prolonging, such divine visitations can be seen as utilitarian events, however uncomfortable they are in the short term.

BBBCanada
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Posted 9/18/2012 11:31 AM (GMT -6)

Right now I'm reading Hart's, "Atheist Delusions" on Roger Olsen's recommendation. Can't recommend this book enough. Hart is a master of words and has some very interesting and thought provoking things to say.

www.amazon.com/Atheist-Delusions-Christian-Revolution-Fashionable/dp/0300164297/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1347985302&sr=8-1&keywords=atheist+delusions

Brandon

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