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Laika
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   Posted 4/20/2004 7:10 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
http://www.imm.dtu.dk/~jw/para04/Abstracts/homa_karimabadi/homa_karimabadi.html

"This approach allows causality errors to occur and provides a recovery mechanism for undoing such effects by rolling the local state of incorrect computations back in time and implementing anti-event messages (messages that cancel the originals when reaching the destination). We are exploring the use of reverse execution techniques to implement rollback in order to substantially reduce the time and memory required using state saving techniques."

http://www.uwsg.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0010.3/0076.html

the "proactively remove events when the thing that triggerred them goes away" approach means that each anti-event (like a read that empties the buffer) needs to undo it's events, but it also needs to be careful that it doesn't undo combined events, and it needs to be very careful about races (new packet coming in), so the proactive remove actually ends up being less than trivial - and in a performance-critical section.

So even physics and OS programming contradict spenlake's charge that "anti-events" don't exist. Big Smile



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   Posted 4/20/2004 7:33 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
quote:
Originally posted by Laika

http://www.imm.dtu.dk/~jw/para04/Abstracts/homa_karimabadi/homa_karimabadi.html

"This approach allows causality errors to occur and provides a recovery mechanism for undoing such effects by rolling the local state of incorrect computations back in time and implementing anti-event messages (messages that cancel the originals when reaching the destination). We are exploring the use of reverse execution techniques to implement rollback in order to substantially reduce the time and memory required using state saving techniques."

http://www.uwsg.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0010.3/0076.html

the "proactively remove events when the thing that triggerred them goes away" approach means that each anti-event (like a read that empties the buffer) needs to undo it's events, but it also needs to be careful that it doesn't undo combined events, and it needs to be very careful about races (new packet coming in), so the proactive remove actually ends up being less than trivial - and in a performance-critical section.

So even physics and OS programming contradict spenlake's charge that "anti-events" don't exist. Big Smile



Did you just get hip to anti-event technology? I have been using it for days now... by the way who is this "SpenLake" fellow you refer to?


P.S. Say hi to my Robotic French Five Pointer. Don't worry he don't bite, God has him on a leash!
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Those who are dominated by the sinful nature think about sinful things, but those who are controlled by the Holy Spirit think about things that please the Spirit. If your sinful nature controls your mind, there is death. But if the Holy Spirit controls your mind, there is life and peace."
1 Cor. 2:15
We who have the Spirit understand these things, but others can't understand us at all.
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Tom
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   Posted 4/20/2004 9:46 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Are anti-Christs real Christs?

Juuuust kiddin.

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1Heart
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   Posted 4/20/2004 5:05 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
quote:
Originally posted by sparknheart

quote:
Originally posted by Laika

http://www.imm.dtu.dk/~jw/para04/Abstracts/homa_karimabadi/homa_karimabadi.html

"This approach allows causality errors to occur and provides a recovery mechanism for undoing such effects by rolling the local state of incorrect computations back in time and implementing anti-event messages (messages that cancel the originals when reaching the destination). We are exploring the use of reverse execution techniques to implement rollback in order to substantially reduce the time and memory required using state saving techniques."

http://www.uwsg.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0010.3/0076.html

the "proactively remove events when the thing that triggerred them goes away" approach means that each anti-event (like a read that empties the buffer) needs to undo it's events, but it also needs to be careful that it doesn't undo combined events, and it needs to be very careful about races (new packet coming in), so the proactive remove actually ends up being less than trivial - and in a performance-critical section.

So even physics and OS programming contradict spenlake's charge that "anti-events" don't exist. Big Smile



Did you just get hip to anti-event technology; I have been using it for days now... by the way who is this "SpenLake" fellow you refer to?


P.S. Say hi to my French Robotic Five Pointer on a Leash!
No sniffing please!






ADORABLE! (No, not you...your dog! Eyebrow )

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   Posted 4/20/2004 5:19 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
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Originally posted by moon_river_j
ADORABLE! (No, not you...your dog! Eyebrow )
Jo-Anne


Thanks Moon,
I love him.

Can you imagineSleepy, I traded a toy airplane for him that my Grandma gave me.Approve It was a good deal, the toy airplane wasn’t even real.Big Smile

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spenlake
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   Posted 4/23/2004 1:14 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
quote:
Originally posted by Laika

http://www.imm.dtu.dk/~jw/para04/Abstracts/homa_karimabadi/homa_karimabadi.html

"This approach allows causality errors to occur and provides a recovery mechanism for undoing such effects by rolling the local state of incorrect computations back in time and implementing anti-event messages (messages that cancel the originals when reaching the destination). We are exploring the use of reverse execution techniques to implement rollback in order to substantially reduce the time and memory required using state saving techniques."

http://www.uwsg.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0010.3/0076.html

the "proactively remove events when the thing that triggerred them goes away" approach means that each anti-event (like a read that empties the buffer) needs to undo it's events, but it also needs to be careful that it doesn't undo combined events, and it needs to be very careful about races (new packet coming in), so the proactive remove actually ends up being less than trivial - and in a performance-critical section.

So even physics and OS programming contradict spenlake's charge that "anti-events" don't exist. Big Smile

Laika,

While I appreciate your determination, I am disappointed in your moving from scriptures to basing your defense of the “truth” of fictional anti-events in computer science papers and “modeled” virtual reality. OS programming of an alternate computer-reality or “virtual reality” is exactly what factual history isn’t. While a noble effort to find a support of any source that would advocate a fictional anti-event as true, this is not anything close to answering the challenge I posed. All you give me is computer “virtual reality” to support the “false is true” to bring us freedom in “Seeing is Believing.” The issue involved in computer science is “memory” of a written record within a closed system. What is happening in a computer is exactly what Dr. Boyd is claiming to happen in real life – virtual reality’s anti-event evolving into a real one through which we experience God face to face and find freedom to forgive. God doesn’t make a new heaven and new earth by “recreating the past” so that we will live history all over again to compensate for the evils of the first time through. This is evident in that the scars on the resurrected body of Jesus are there to remember the factual event, not forget it.

Your defense of virtual history evolving into factual history could be attempted to support in the book of Mormon. Let fiction evolve into fact. This is actually part of the problem, the sincere and committed Mormons have been “reprogrammed” to believe the false by their false teaching based upon a false revelation. 2 Thess 2:11 documents this with God Himself sending the deluding influence. When we leave the factual record we begin to be reprogrammed to believe the false – the anti event instead of the factual one. The “gospel” of Dr. Boyd’s book is simply a reprogramming of our minds into the “mind of Christ” by replacing the factual historical event into virtual reality. The scriptures however, are not some Matrix but factual history with a factual Savior who brought us salvation by his coming in the flesh. Support your “gospel” of Dr. Boyd promising freedom, forgiveness, and healing in fictional anti-events from the scriptures, if you can. This is the core issue. You can’t support it and neither can Dr.Boyd.


Spen Lake

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