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PhilTheThrill
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| Posted 6/3/2004 5:44 AM (GMT -6) |   | quote:
Originally posted by spenlake
Isaiah 54:16
Behold, I Myself have created the smith who blows the fire of coals And brings out a weapon for its work; And I have created the destroyer to ruin.
I havent ever read this verse before, so i found it interesting too.
What's also interesting is that the context of the verse falls in a discussion of God protecting Zion, as if to say that this destroyer is on a leash. | | Back to Top | | |
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Armchair Theologian
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| Posted 6/3/2004 6:38 AM (GMT -6) | | Isaiah 54:11
"O afflicted one, storm-tossed, and not comforted,
Behold, I will set your stones in antimony,
And your foundations I will lay in sapphires.
12 Moreover, I will make your battlements of rubies,
And your gates of crystal,
And your entire wall of precious stones.
13 All your sons will be taught of the LORD;
And the well-being of your sons will be great.
14 In righteousness you will be established;
You will be far from oppression, for you will not fear;
And from terror, for it will not come near you.
15 If anyone fiercely assails you it will not be from Me.
Whoever assails you will fall because of you.
16 Behold, I Myself have created the smith who blows the fire of coals
And brings out a weapon for its work;
And I have created the destroyer to ruin."
Antimony settings
Sapphire foundations
Ruby battlements
Crystal gates
Gemstone walls
"The LORD said to her,
'Two nations are in your womb; And two peoples will be separated from your body'" | | Back to Top | | |
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Truth Aficionado
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| Posted 6/3/2004 8:39 AM (GMT -6) | | Let the people of God, when afflicted and tossed, think they hear God speaking comfortably to them by these words, taking notice of their griefs and fears. The church is all glorious when full of the knowledge of God; for none teaches like him. It is a promise of the teaching and gifts of the Holy Spirit. All that are taught of God are taught to love one another. This seems to relate especially to the glorious times to succeed the tribulations of the church. Holiness, more than any thing, is the beauty of the church. God promises protection. There shall be no fears within; there shall be no fightings without. Military men value themselves on their splendid titles, but God calls them, “Wasters made to destroy,” for they make wasting and destruction their business. He created them, therefore he will serve his own designs by them. The day is coming when God will reckon with wicked men for their hard speeches, Jude 1:15. Security and final victory are the heritage of each faithful servant of the Lord. The righteousness by which they are justified, and the grace by which they are sanctified, are the gift of God, and the effect of his special love. Let us beseech him to sanctify our souls, and to employ us in his service.
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victoryword
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| Posted 6/3/2004 8:58 AM (GMT -6) | | "I create the blacksmith, who builds a fire and forges weapons. I also create the soldier, who uses the weapons to kill. (The Good News Translation)
Don't forget that I created metalworkers who make weapons over burning coals. I also created armies that can bring destruction.
(Contemporary English Version)
16. The workman that forms "weapons against thee" (Isa 54:17) is wholly in My power, therefore thou needest not fear, having Me on thy side.
for his work--rather, "by his labor [HORSLEY]. "According to the exigencies of his work" [MAURER].
waster to destroy-- (Isa 10:5-7; 37:26, 27; 45:1-6). Desolating conquerors who use the "instruments" framed by "the smith." The repetition of the "I" implies, however, something in the latter half of the verse contrasted with the former understand it, therefore, thus: "I have in My power both him who frames arms and him who destroys them (arms)" [ROSENMULLER]. (JFB Commentary)
If your beliefs cannot be supported by Scripture, they ain't worth supporting
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