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PotOnWheel
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| Posted 6/29/2004 12:43 PM (GMT -6) |   | 
June 29
The Holy Glorious and All-Praised Leader of the Apostles,
Peter & Paul
Jerusalem, Rome, Antioch (1st Century)
Troparion in tone 4
First-enthroned of the apostles,
teachers of the universe:
Entreat the Master of all
to grant peace to the world,
and to our souls great mercy!
Kontakion in tone 2
O Lord, You have taken up to eternal rest
and to the enjoyment of Your blessings
the two divinely-inspired preachers, the leaders of the Apostles,
for You have accepted their labors and deaths as a sweet-smelling sacrifice,
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PotOnWheel
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| Posted 6/29/2004 12:46 PM (GMT -6) | | 
the Holy Glorious and All-Praised Leader of the Apostles, Peter
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the Holy Glorious and All-Praised Leader of the Apostles, Paul
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PotOnWheel
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| Posted 6/29/2004 12:48 PM (GMT -6) | |
Icon of the Mother of God of Kasperovsk
Kasperovsk (1853-55) | | Back to Top | | |
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PotOnWheel
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| Posted 6/30/2004 9:56 AM (GMT -6) | | 
Synaxis of the Holy, Glorious and All-Praised Twelve Apostles
Troparion in tone 3
O holy Apostles of Christ
Pray to our merciful God,
That he may grant us remission of our sins.
Kontakion in tone 2
Today Christ the Rock gladly glorifies the rock of faith,
The chosen disciple, together with Paul and the entire company of the Twelve.
As we celebrate their memory,
We glorify him who has glorified them!
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PotOnWheel
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| Posted 7/25/2004 2:28 PM (GMT -6) | | quote:
Originally posted by feelinahole
POW: I would be interested in you answering Doctor Boyd's question about imagination...(I would assume that you know what I object to about icons because you used your imagination...considering you cannot read my mind...)
feelinhole, I think this must be it: (Greg B.) Seriously POW, as you contemplate an icon, or any religious symbol, what do you DO IN YOUR head unless it involves seeing or hearing something in response ot the icon?
The answer to THAT is that iconography GOES WITH prayers or liturgy. Almost inseparably. At least until the liturgy becomes internalized; at which point "silence" is appropriate. (As I write this, I think the Cross is something that to a measure I can venerate drawing upon the liturgies and thoughts I've had before. And in stillness come before the Lord and be open to what work in my heart he will do, and to what silent prayer my spirit will be joined.)
Sorry I didn't answer before, feelinhole.
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PotOnWheel
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| Posted 10/26/2004 6:29 AM (GMT -6) | | quote:
Originally posted by PotOnWheel
quote:
Originally posted by feelinahole
POW: I would be interested in you answering Doctor Boyd's question about imagination...(I would assume that you know what I object to about icons because you used your imagination...considering you cannot read my mind...)
feelinhole, I think this must be it: (Greg B.) Seriously POW, as you contemplate an icon, or any religious symbol, what do you DO IN YOUR head unless it involves seeing or hearing something in response ot the icon?
The answer to THAT is that iconography GOES WITH prayers or liturgy. Almost inseparably. At least until the liturgy becomes internalized; at which point "silence" is appropriate. (As I write this, I think the Cross is something that to a measure I can venerate drawing upon the liturgies and thoughts I've had before. And in stillness come before the Lord and be open to what work in my heart he will do, and to what silent prayer my spirit will be joined.)
Sorry I didn't answer before, feelinhole.
PoW
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PotOnWheel
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| Posted 10/26/2004 6:40 AM (GMT -6) | | | Think of how a cross is used in YOUR church. | | Back to Top | | |
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PotOnWheel
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| Posted 11/28/2004 12:17 PM (GMT -6) | | NEXTSunday I am "on" with regards to teaching the Adult Sunday School class about "Christian Iconography."
I get to remind all my Dutch Calvinist friends of their previous encounters with EIKONS.
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P.S. This thread is among those I'm using. Others from other sites. And my own harddrive files. | | Back to Top | | |
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PotOnWheel
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| Posted 11/28/2004 2:52 PM (GMT -6) | | This is excellent. And it is BY the Patriarch of Constantinople.
Bartholomew Archbishop of Constantinople, New Rome, and Ecumenical Patriarch
"Byzantine Icons: A Legacy of Humanism" The Metropolitan Museum of Art (March 18, 2004)
http://www.goarch.org/en/special/usvisit2004/holiness/addresses/ad_031804_lecture.asp | | Back to Top | | |
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