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Tom
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   Posted 6/24/2002 7:33 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Bill Craig (and other Molinists I would assume) argue for retroactive prayer. Let's say your friend is on a flight to Boston. The plane crashes. You get news of the crash hours after the tragedy but do NOT know the casuality report. Craig says in this instance you may pray for your friend and God, possessing knowledge of what you would do in this particular circumstance, will have answered it prior to your asking.

Comments?

I was sort of interested in the way people pray for such circumstances. When you hear of tragedies like this, how do you pray?

Tom

"Every saint has a history and every sinner a future." Oscar Wilde
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Mute
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   Posted 6/24/2002 8:05 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Well let's see if it works. Lord Jesus I pray that Tom would not post a thread about retroactive prayer.

Okay so how long do you think we have to wait to find out if it works?

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Empiress
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   Posted 6/24/2002 9:31 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
*giggles out loud at Mute's response*

I personally practice retro-active prayer. I have no idea, especially in light of the Open view, if it "works." But because I feel that so much is still a mystery to us in terms of how the spiritual realm works, I figure "it can't hurt."

Not terribly deep I know.

;-p

Peace,
~Empiress

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Tom
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   Posted 6/24/2002 10:53 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
quote:
Well let's see if it works. Lord Jesus I pray that Tom would not post a thread about retroactive prayer.

Okay so how long do you think we have to wait to find out if it works?
Ha ha!

Actually, proponents of such prayer insist that the prayER must be ignorant of how things actually turned out for such prayer to work. If you know that I posted a thread on retroactive prayer, then, Craig argues, you could not pray that I not post. But lets say you heard on a Friday that 50% or even 99% of the members posted on retroactive prayer the day before (Thursday) and had not yourself yet observed whether or not I was one of those who posted, then you could pray to God that I not post on this subject and, given God's middle knowledge, God could answer your prayer.



Tom

"Every saint has a history and every sinner a future." Oscar Wilde

Edited by - TGB on 06/25/2002 03:54:23 AM

Edited by - TGB on 06/25/2002 03:55:57 AM
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Iconoclast
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   Posted 6/26/2002 8:10 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
TGB

Actually, proponents of such prayer insist that the prayER must be ignorant of how things actually turned out for such prayer to work.

Iconoclast

Sounds like Quantum Mechanics. If the person praying observes the result then the wave function is collapsed and it has been decided. Cool, a theological implication to Schroedinger's cat. I vote for retroactive prayer.

thanks,
Iconoclast

"The benefit overran the merit the first day, and has overrun the merit ever since. The merit itself, so-called, I reckon part of the receiving." - Ralph Waldo Emerson
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