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a_theist
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| Posted 3/6/2003 1:25 AM (GMT -6) |   | 1. I recently had a girl comment to me that she wouldn't add me to her live journal friends list because of some of my scriptural views. She said it would lead to confusion, and God isn't the author of confusion. I posted the scriptures she gave me below. What does the reader of my post think?
The Lord doesn't want you to be confused or decieved. Colossians 2:1-23 KJV
2. I am assuming she posted this because I make it no seceret that I like philosophy and science. The problem is, there are very devout Christians who practice philosophy and science. What does the reader think of this?
Colossians 2:8 "Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ."
This is an accusation that I am somehow in love with my worldly wisdom than the wisdom that Christ can bring into my life if I just abandon anything I know about the world.
Jesus says in His word: "Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me...and ye shall find rest unto your souls." Matthew 11:29
Any feedback would be appreciated.
Blessings,
Paul
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Matthew Timothy Short
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| Posted 3/6/2003 1:46 AM (GMT -6) | | Hey A_Theist,
A Biblical perspective can limit my understanding of others, until I hear the Spirit of God within myself, then I have no problem interacting with anyone at any level, such as Jesus does.
In other words, there is the Spirit lead life, and the ‘my understanding of Scripture on my own’, lead life, one usually comes before the other and is more difficult on me and others as well  .
God is Love,
Tim
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a_theist
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| Posted 3/6/2003 2:35 AM (GMT -6) | | Thanks!
All I can say is that I feel I am living by the spirit and being faithful to the things he has put in my path. I feel I am developing my knowledge like he wants by reading stuff that might not settle with the believer, but will ultimately give me a better understanding. I trust God in that. I just think it is sad that because that girl saw my views, and they didn't resonate with her presuppositions on what the bible was telling her, she dismissed me as one who confuses and she believes that God isn't the author of confusion; am I to believe that although God isn't the author of confusion, that I will have infallible knowledge while walking with Christ? Now I am confused.
Blessings,
Paul
"The 'sovereignty' of God is not, I suggest, a very biblical idea, especially if one has a low opinion of the respect of sovereigns for the freedom of their subjects."
~Charles Hartshorne
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Tom
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| Posted 3/7/2003 2:23 AM (GMT -6) | | Paul-
Doesn’t sound to me like your friend’s journal list is something you’d want to be a part of anyhow. If I were in your shoes and she refused me entrance based on the verses you posted, I’d tell her “Listen Hun  , a) there don’t exist any views on Scripture and doctrine that aren’t confusing at certain points—life is confusing, get over it, b) you views are confusing to some, so should these people take this as evidence that your views are not biblical? c) the verses you quote warn against succumbing to arguments that suggest we abandon Christ, my beliefs on the other hand have encouraged my faith and the faith of many others; what evidence do you have that my beliefs lead one to abandon their faith? And d) assuming you believe in determinism, are you aware of the pagan philosophical underpinnings of such a worldview?
Or if I wasn’t in such a bad mood I might just tell her, “Well, that’s very interesting. I’m sorry you feel that way. God bless you!”
Tom 
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BBBCanada
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| Posted 3/7/2003 4:41 AM (GMT -6) | | quote:
If I were in your shoes and she refused me entrance based on the verses you posted, I’d tell her “Listen Hun...
Yer a dawg Tom.
Brandon
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Semeia
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| Posted 3/7/2003 4:57 AM (GMT -6) | | Tom said:
If I were in your shoes and she refused me entrance based on the verses you posted, I’d tell her “Listen Hun..."
Semeia:
I fail to see the joke, Tom. It feels like another poke in the eye.
Who is the wink for? Springs and I? Or for the guys who like to start out their communication with a woman with a term of disrespect and a put down? If it's the latter, they will see the wink as a tacit approval. If it's the former, it feels like a slam.
Semeia
"The opposite of sin is not virtue, but faith."--Soren Kierkegaard
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BBBCanada
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| Posted 3/7/2003 6:24 AM (GMT -6) | | Opps! Your turn Tom. Yer in trouble nooowww!!!
Brandon
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a_theist
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| Posted 3/7/2003 7:50 AM (GMT -6) | | ooooh! *waves finger*
Thanks for your post Tom!
"The 'sovereignty' of God is not, I suggest, a very biblical idea, especially if one has a low opinion of the respect of sovereigns for the freedom of their subjects."
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Tom
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| Posted 3/7/2003 8:16 AM (GMT -6) | | Semeia: I fail to see the joke, Tom. It feels like another poke in the eye. Who is the wink for? Springs and I?
Tom: ...for Springs and ME. Object of the preposition. ME ME ME!
Semeia: Or for the guys who like to start out their communication with a woman with a term of disrespect and a put down? If it's the latter, they will see the wink as a tacit approval. If it's the former, it feels like a slam.
Tom: The "Hun" and wink were both for BBBCanada! I was just jibing him because Springs AND I both had gotten on to him about saying "Hun" to women. I never say "hun" to anybody but my wife! Ask Springs. She'll vouch for me. Won't ya Springs?
I'm really sorry Semiea. I wasn't trying to make fun of the offense such language is for many women. I was only trying to tell Brandon I still loved him even though I DON'T say "hun" to women and he does. It didn't work. Sorry.
Forgive me?
Am I still invited to your house next week?
Springs, I'm bringing humble pie to the potluck.
Tom
PS I've rewritten this thing ten times for fear of being offensive! Now I don't know how to talk! Rats.
Love never ends
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BBBCanada
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| Posted 3/7/2003 8:21 AM (GMT -6) | | The topic of this thread is soooo apropos! 
Brandon
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Tom
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| Posted 3/7/2003 8:52 AM (GMT -6) | | I want to tip toe through this, OK?
Semeia, there's something interesting and even humorous about this. Over on the Poetry thread you posted a rather funny and satirical joke about how impossible it is for men to win points with women, especially when women are cranky because of their period! We all thought it was funny. It WAS funny. But...
...would it have been funny had a man posted it?
Hmmmm? Come on now, let's be honest ladies. It's OK for women to rag on women but not for men to rag on women. Is this what makes Semeia's post on the Giggle thread so funny?
Springs? Save me?
Tom
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BBBCanada
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| Posted 3/7/2003 9:00 AM (GMT -6) | | Do the words..."Dog house" connect with you in ANY, WAY SHAPE OR FORM???
Brandon
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Semeia
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| Posted 3/7/2003 9:01 AM (GMT -6) | | I still love ya, Tom. But you're killing ME ME ME! (Object of no one )
Yes, you're still invited - but we may be having you and Brandon FOR lunch, if you catch my drift...
And the kind of humble pie I like best is pecan.
Love,
Semeia
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Tom
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| Posted 3/7/2003 9:05 AM (GMT -6) | | Semeia-
Thanks. You are class.
I was going to say, "Thanks Hun," but thought again.
Tom
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Semeia
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| Posted 3/7/2003 10:14 AM (GMT -6) | | Hey Tom,
I'm coming back later to answer your question; I have a guess about what goes wrong sometimes when we're just having fun...
I'm all for having fun!
Thanks,
Semeia
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Empiress
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| Posted 3/8/2003 5:00 AM (GMT -6) | | Brandon said: quote:
The topic of this thread is soooo apropos!
Oh my! That had me rolling on the floor laughing. Ahhhhh....I needed that.
Thanks,
~E
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Springs
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| Posted 3/8/2003 2:35 PM (GMT -6) | | quote:
Tom: Springs, I'm bringing humble pie to the potluck.
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Semeia: And the kind of humble pie I like best is pecan.
Hey, my favorite humble pie is pecan too! I love it when people are humble! Jolly good work old man.
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Tom wrote...would it have been funny had a man posted it?
Oh, come on fellah, no man, would ever, have posted that.
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Tom: Hmmmm? Come on now, let's be honest ladies. It's OK for women to rag on women but not for men to rag on women. Is this what makes Semeia's post on the Giggle thread so funny?
Springs? Save me?
Give it up man! Semeia’s post was a woman ragging about men. Jokes made by men about men or women, and jokes made by women about men and women, are all acceptable. Although, we generally laugh at jokes made at the expense of the opposite sex more robustly than our own. However, any jokes delivered by any body to anybody, have contexts whereby the jokes are appropriate or not. Some of those boundaries are defined socially or morally.
Will there be whipped cream?
Springs
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BBBCanada
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| Posted 3/9/2003 3:01 AM (GMT -6) | | Springs,
Sitting across from me two days ago here at the U? Was this girl that wore a shirt that said:
"Grow your own Dope: Plant a Man"
That hurt. Right here (pointing and tapping my chest with strained sorrowful look on my face).
Brandon
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Tom
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| Posted 3/9/2003 4:48 AM (GMT -6) | | Springs: Oh, come on fellah, no man, would ever, have posted that.
Tom: Ha! Brandon, I'm not sure whehter Springs just insult us men or her own sex. See, I agree that no man would even have posted what Semeia posted. That's just the point! Men know that what she posted is true (generally) but we're too considerate of women's feelings (or our own survival) to post it!
Whipped cream! Sure! Yeah, everybody gets a can at Saturday's lunch and we'll have a food fight. Men against women!
Tom
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BBBCanada
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| Posted 3/9/2003 7:08 AM (GMT -6) | | Girls. HA! Let's go to the men's room, shall we Tom? 
Brandon
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