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Tom
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   Posted 11/3/2001 2:38 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Hi all-

In responding to a few of Piper’s comments in OB’s (OrthodoxBerean: Do you mind the abbreviation OB?) thread, I tried to argue that the determinist’s view of conditional options offered to us by a God who knows what we’ll do is disingenuous because it undermines the “integrity” of the God-world relationship (and of all talk about God). That is, options offered us by God have equally to be possible from God’s point of view. I think Pinnock in Mover argues the same thing and uses the word “integrity” as well. But he doesn’t unpack it.

1) Does anybody get what it is I’m trying to say regarding the “integrity” to make this point? And…

2) Can somebody help me refine it? I mean define what it is we all THINK we mean when we speak about our relationships having “integrity”? I wanna work on this particular argument. How should I be arguing it formally?

Mephi, is this not what changed your viewpoint on the OV? If not then I suspect you’ll write to tell me why this argument doesn’t hold water. Yes? No?

Tom


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