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1way
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   Posted 11/28/2001 10:42 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Are Christians supposed to judge not, or are they taught to judge all things?

Is the judge not concept directed and righteous Christians, or hypocrites?

I think the truth is readily available, but many believe like Semeia that it is not Christ-like to judge, especially suggesting that we are not supposed to judge other people. Most, like Bob Hill and such, put an emphasis upon judging ourselves, which I agree, that is a priority. But I believe that righteous judgment is supposed to happen towards others as well. The “judge yourself” teachings are obviously to guard against personal hypocrisy, but even those teachings teach to first judge yourself so that you can rightly judge and help others.

The following is a short list of teachings that teach that we are supposed to judge. It is my position that there is no scripture that teaches Christians to not judge. And that some phrases, like not being judged by no-one, is in reference to being judged as wrong. Sometimes judgement is implied as what righteous people do, and what unrighteous people are guilty of, so a statement against being judged may be more about not being guilty of doing wrong rather than the simple idea of not judging at all. Given the following, I think that all of what I just said is reasonable and accurate. God teaches us to use the mind of Christ, to judge with righteous judgment and to always abhor that which is evil.
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Pr 31:9 Open your mouth, judge righteously, And plead the cause of the poor and needy.

Isa 28:21 For the LORD will rise up as [at] Mount Perazim, He will be angry as in the Valley of Gibeon--That He may do His work, His awesome work, And bring to pass His act, His unusual act.
23 Give ear and hear my voice, Listen and hear my speech.
24 Does the plowman keep plowing all day to sow? Does he keep turning his soil and breaking the clods?
25 When he has leveled its surface, Does he not sow the black cummin And scatter the cummin, Plant the wheat in rows, The barley in the appointed place, And the spelt in its place?
26 For He instructs him in right judgment, His God teaches him.
29 This also comes from the LORD of hosts, Who is wonderful in counsel and excellent in guidance.

Eze 23:45 "But righteous men will judge them after the manner of adulteresses, and after the manner of women who shed blood, because they [are] adulteresses, and blood [is] on their hands.

Lu 7:43 Simon answered and said, "I suppose the [one] whom he forgave more." And He said to him, "You have rightly judged."

Joh 7:24 "Do not judge according to appearance, but judge with righteous judgment."

Lu 12:57 "Yes, and why, even of yourselves, do you not judge what is right?

Ac 17:31 "because He has appointed a day on which He will judge the world in righteousness by the Man whom He has ordained. He has given assurance of this to all by raising Him from the dead."

Ps 9:8 He shall judge the world in righteousness, And He shall administer judgment for the peoples in uprightness.

Ps 96:13 before the LORD. (96:13) For He is coming, for He is coming to judge the earth. He shall judge the world with righteousness, And the peoples with His truth.

Joh 12:47 "And if anyone hears My words and does not believe, I do not judge him; for I did not come to judge the world but to save the world.

Ro 3:6 Certainly not! For then how will God judge the world?

And how then did Jesus in turn delegated judgment?

1Co 6:2 Do you not know that the saints will judge the world? And if the world will be judged by you, are you unworthy to judge the smallest matters?
3 Do you not know that we shall judge angels? How much more, things that pertain to this life?
5 I say this to your shame. Is it so, that there is not a wise man among you, not even one, who will be able to judge between his brethren?
8 No, you yourselves do wrong and cheat, and you do these things to your brethren!

1Co 2:15 But he who is spiritual judges all things, yet he himself is [rightly] judged by no one.

Lastly, judge not is directed at the hypocrite.
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Mt 7:1 "Judge not, that you be not judged.
2 "For with what judgment you judge, you will be judged; and with the measure you use, it will be measured back to you.
3 "And why do you look at the speck in your brother's eye, but do not consider the plank in your own eye?
4 "Or how can you say to your brother, `Let me remove the speck from your eye'; and look, a plank is in your own eye?
5 "Hypocrite! First remove the plank from your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye.
6 "Do not give what is holy to the dogs; nor cast your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you in pieces.

That passage is about hypocrisy and destructiveness of that which goes against God’s word. It’s speaking to the Christian to not judge like a hypocrite, to first judge himself in order to rightly judge others, and to judge against people when they are dogs and swine.

Another similar passage.
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Lu 6:37 "Judge not, and you shall not be judged. Condemn not, and you shall not be condemned. Forgive, and you will be forgiven.
38 "Give, and it will be given to you: good measure, pressed down, shaken together, and running over will be put into your bosom. For with the same measure that you use, it will be measured back to you."
39 And He spoke a parable to them: "Can the blind lead the blind? Will they not both fall into the ditch?
40 "A disciple is not above his teacher, but everyone who is perfectly trained will be like his teacher.
41 "And why do you look at the speck in your brother's eye, but do not perceive the plank in your own eye?
42 "Or how can you say to your brother, `Brother, let me remove the speck that is in your eye,' when you yourself do not see the plank that is in your own eye? Hypocrite! First remove the plank from your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck that is in your brother's eye.
43 "For a good tree does not bear bad fruit, nor does a bad tree bear good fruit.
44 "For every tree is known by its own fruit. For men do not gather figs from thorns, nor do they gather grapes from a bramble bush.
45 "A good man out of the good treasure of his heart brings forth good; and an evil man out of the evil treasure of his heart brings forth evil. For out of the abundance of the heart his mouth speaks.
46 "But why do you call Me `Lord, Lord,' and do not do the things which I say?

Jesus teaches how to judge rightly and non-hypocritically, but many teach and do not obey the Lord in these things. Some men are good and some are evil. Everyone knows that Hitler was evil, but few are willing to judge him that way. I wonder if that Christian that Semeia spoke about who plotted to kill overthrow Hitler, judged Hitler as evil or not?
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1Co 2:16 For "who has known the mind of the LORD that he may instruct Him?" But we have the mind of Christ.

Lk 6:40 A disciple is not above his teacher, but everyone who is perfectly trained will be like his teacher.

Ro 12:9 [Let] love [be] without hypocrisy. Abhor what is evil. Cling to what is good.

Don’t be nicer than God, be loving and righteous and just and true, judge against all that is evil. For example, obey God’s judgement teachings and judge with righteous non-hypocritical judgment, which should lead you to judge that “judge not” is an anti-Christian sentiment as used against the Christian instead of against the hypocrite.

Judge not is the hypocrite’s golden rule. Examine the following.

Person H (hypocrite) judges against person R (righteous) as not acting as they “ought to be” (smile) because they were judging against that which is evil (= any wrong free will moral agent). Therefore person H is a hypocrite for judging as they did. The fact is that within every situation where person H teaches against personal judgment, they are also teaching “the way things ought to be”, specifically, it is wrong to judge others directly equals that it ought to be that people should not judge others. So that belief is inherently and necessarily hypocritical. “Judge not” is thus hypocrisy and is more anti-Christian than it is Christian. Conversely, “judge not you hypocrite”, or “judge not like a hypocrite” is a Christian teaching. It is a very sad reality that the most common Christian position on judging is that we should not judge. The lack of biblical understanding within Christianity is tremendous and perilous. God’s word is true, but Christianity, wherever thus so opposed to God’s word, is not.

May grace and righteous understanding and patience according to Godly non-hypocritical love permeate our responses as we consider Godly judgment and the way things “ought to be” according to right Christian faith. God even tells us errant human’s to judge between who should live and who should not be allowed to live.
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Eze 13:19 "And will you profane Me among My people for handfuls of barley and for pieces of bread, killing people who should not die, and keeping people alive who should not live, by your lying to My people who listen to lies?"
Non-hypocritical love and blessings to all,
1way

Edited by - 1way on 12/14/2001 9:50:01 PM
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