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eef
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| Posted 10/29/2002 8:58 AM (GMT -6) |   | Sounds like a dumb question I know. Here's what's up. My friend moves away to the city and gets involved in a little home church with some guy and this guy is teaching something to the effect of this:
Everything Christ taught was or the jews ONLY, and We must only look to the words of Paul (or somehtihing like that)... I guess the view is is cessationalist because they say that God can't answer our prayers for healing and miracles and anything physical anymore.
These are the few details I've gotten through a friend talking to the friend who's believing all this stuff- I guess they call it "right division" because they are dividing paul as our rightful leader or something... The funny thing is that the friend reccommended the book "satan and the problem of evil" which I am just in the middle of, as a book that defends this view. SO far I haven't found it in the book, but hey, I'm not done...
To me it sounds like another forced interpretation of the bible to try to make excuses for why healings and miracles aren't so popular these days, and why God doesn't just speak to us... I don't know...
I'm just wondering if anyone knows of this view, and could help me understand it's scriptural basis, and why or why not is it true-? Is it just another little theological divide like open theism, or is it like, something that could lead my friend into some really wierd cult type thing? That's what I want to know. These teachnigs are new to me... and I was like what the heck.
ANy help would be very helpful... (wasn't that a brilliant statement)
-eef
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Modes of Thought
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| Posted 10/29/2002 9:32 AM (GMT -6) | |
If you believe that Jesus was God incarnate, then of course one can surely believe that God can act physically in other ways as well.
The arguments for cessationism are VERY weak exegetically. Usually it is rooted in a funky reading of I Cor. 13 where it speaks of various things "ceasing." The idea is that the event which causes these things to cease was the completion of Scripture, but anyone reading with the light on can see that the event being spoken of is actually the return of Christ.
Yes, it is a divisive teaching that wants to explain why healings and so forth are not at our total control. It is also a counter "manifestation gifts" teaching.
You will not find any support for cessationism in Dr. Boyd's writings.
"Christianly understood, truth is obviously not to know the truth but to be the truth. Despite all modern philosophy, there is an infinite difference here..." SK
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Alan Rhoda
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| Posted 10/29/2002 10:38 AM (GMT -6) | | quote:
Everything Christ taught was for the jews ONLY, and We must only look to the words of Paul (or something like that)...
I'm curious, what's the rationale for believing this? Does your friend have any Scripture verses to cite on behalf on this viewpoint. Looks to me like a sort of hyper-dispensationalism. If this view's correct, should those of us who aren't Jews ignore the Sermon on the Mount? And what about the epistles of Peter and John?
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eef
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| Posted 10/29/2002 9:32 PM (GMT -6) | | that's what I want to know!!!!
I'm supposed to be getting some scriptures about it sometime soon, if I do I'll post 'em up.
-eef
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