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Alan Rhoda
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| Posted 4/4/2003 8:22 AM (GMT -6) |   | A friend told me about an interesting web site:
www.atheists-for-jesus.com/
The premise is that Jesus was a great ethical teacher but never claimed to be God. Modern Christianity, it is alleged, has largely deviated from Jesus' message due to the influence of the "self-proclaimed" apostle Paul.
Any thoughts?
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honorman
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| Posted 4/4/2003 9:44 AM (GMT -6) | | Other than the fact that the Gospels were written by his closest friends, particularly John, and all proclaim his deity one way or the other...seems to me like a other way to get Jesus into the picture without actually truly following him...
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GregBoyd
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| Posted 4/8/2003 2:30 PM (GMT -6) | | How many ethical teachers say things like
"I've come down from heaven..."
"Blessed are you when you're persecuted for MY sake..."
"I am the way, the truth and the life"
"Know man knows the Father except the Son (ME)..."
" All hail" (and they worshipped him)
"You shall say to me on the day of judgement, "lord, lord," but I will say, depart from me..."
" If you see me you see the Father..."
"Honor me just as you honor the Father..." ????
Who does this guy think he is?
And how many great ethical teachers
* walk on water
* multiply loaves and fishes
* heal lepers
* heal the blind
* cast out demons
* rebuke storms
* rise from the dead???
Whoever this guy thinks he is, maybe we should isten up/
In any case, seems like Paul is just giving theological expression to what is implicit in the Gospels.
But, curiously, the Gospels were written AFTER Paul's letters (so most scholars argue). Hence, its odd to claim that Paul REVISED the Gospel portrait of Jesus.
There's my two sense.
Greg
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