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¡Que Payaso!
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GregBoyd
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| Posted 1/15/2003 4:21 PM (GMT -6) | | I just got several e-mails about this today. Wow, news is spreading. Looks like a significant find.. IF it turns out to be authentic. Thanks payso.
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| Posted 1/16/2003 1:18 PM (GMT -6) | | You realize that there are ossuary finds that are much closer to the time of Christ than James’ tomb. These earlier finds are more significant I believe because they are closer to the time of Christ, within ten years, and help prove the claims of Christ and support the New Testament’s historicity. The popular media claims the ossuary of James is the oldest such find… they are simply wrong, because they are not merely known as the popular media, but "pop" media.
As for the find posted here… very, very cool!!
SeanG!"Evolution is the substance of fossils hoped for, the evidence of links not seen." ~ An adaptation of Hebrews 11:1
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¡Que Payaso!
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| Posted 1/16/2003 2:40 PM (GMT -6) | | Well, over on the Ancient Near East discussion board, the Joash inscription is coming under heavy fire. Apparently, the geologists say the stone is real, but some paleographers have serious doubts about the inscription itself: funny uses of waw and an idiomatic expression which appears to be modern. Of course, these are initial reactions and they were made without the benefit of having seen the inscription in detail; they only had the internet images available to them. We'll have to wait and see how this all washes out.
SeanG,
How are ossuaries which date more closely to the time of Christ more historically significant than the James' ossuary? How do they prove Christ's claims and establish the historical veracity of the New Testament? Are you talking about James' tomb (what you wrote) versus the James' ossuary (to which I was referring)?
The significance of the James' ossuary (if indeed it is authentic and that it refers to the New Testament characters) has to do with the names inscribed on it. This would be the first archaeological find from that period which provides outside confirmation of the existence of Jesus, his father Joseph, and his brother James. The James' ossuary (if authentic) appears to date to sometime in the first century A.D. which certainly fits the time of Christ.
Payaso 
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| Posted 1/16/2003 4:30 PM (GMT -6) | | I gave the impression in my last note that the paleographers weren't impressed with the Joash inscription's "authenticity". Well, I checked out the ANE List again and there is hardly a consensus on this matter. So forget what I said...the jury is still out.
Payaso
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fyodor
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| Posted 1/16/2003 5:55 PM (GMT -6) | | This is fascinating stuff. Evidence is always nice to have. Does anybody know a [good/i] resource for learning more about archaelogical finds that provide support or opposition to Biblical accounts. Perhaps something more general rather than too "heady".
Thanks
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| Posted 1/16/2003 6:56 PM (GMT -6) | | fyodor,
There is a nice bi-monthly magazine called Biblical Archaeology Review (biblicalarchaeology.org). It is popular in style even though most of the contributing authors are recognized scholars in their fields. I would imagine that most Christian bookstores carry a copy or two of BAR. Each issue is loaded with pictures and illustrations.
A more conservative take can be found in Bible and Spade, a quarterly magazine put out by Associates for Biblical Research (www.biblearchaeology.org).
One easy-to-read book is Alfred Hoerth's Archaeology and the Old Testament (Baker, 1998). Although his book reads more like a history of Israel than an archaeology text, the results of archaeology are incorporated throughout. Hoerth includes many illustrations and cites numerous articles from popular and semi-popular publications. The companion volume Archaeology and the New Testament by John McKay (Baker, 1991) is outstanding!
One really nice website is Todd Bolen's www.bibleplaces.com.
Let me know if you are interested in anything more specific...maybe I can help.
Payaso
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