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John Earp
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| Posted 7/6/2003 6:34 PM (GMT -6) |   | This charge is often laid at the feet of those who believe in significant human freedom to choose for or against God. Essentially, the Calvinist claims that the Arminian (or OVer, for that matter) takes credit for choosing to believe the gospel. What say ye, OVers and Arminians? Why is this not a true representation of your position?
(I have my own answer to this question, but would really like to hear what others have come up with).
Thanks,
John
"The Discovery of new truth will modify old views and opinions, and there is perhaps no end to this process with finite minds in any world." Charles G. Finney, Systematic Theology.
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honorman
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| Posted 7/6/2003 7:27 PM (GMT -6) | | No, because we must look at how God has declared salvation to be obtained. God is the ground of our salvation, yet he has ordained faith as the means by which we are saved. Since God ordained both the way and the means, God is the author of salvation and the only one to be praised.
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Jeffrywith1e
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| Posted 7/7/2003 6:16 AM (GMT -6) | | God offers salvation to everyone. only people who miss salvation can take credit for missing it.
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PotOnWheel
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| Posted 7/7/2003 6:25 AM (GMT -6) | | John: Essentially, the Calvinist claims that the Arminian (or OVer, for that matter) takes credit for choosing to believe the gospel.
FUNNY: Think is, I've grown to wonder whether it is those who point to "faitn only" that 'take credi' rather than continually rely on the Spirit's help in "willing and doing" of the "working out of their salvation." | | Back to Top | | |
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Terry_Baxter
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| Posted 7/7/2003 5:17 PM (GMT -6) | | John,
If you get a chance, take a look at the thread from one of my very first posts over a year ago. I asked a fairly similar question. Therein you will find Greg's response.
http://www.gregboyd.org/gbfront/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=870&ARCHIVE=&whichpage=1
Terry
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PotOnWheel
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