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honorman
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| Posted 6/3/2003 10:15 AM (GMT -6) |   | "Indeed, it must be said that those who moral difficulties with the genocide in the conquest of Canaan should have even more serious difficulties with the final judgment. In the latter, all those who do not follow Christ--men, women, and children, will be thrown into the lake of fire. The alternatives to embracing this pciture are either rejecting the biblical God or playing the Marcionite game of choosing those Scriptures that suit us, or perhaps treating the final judgment as a metaphor for total annihilation. However, even the latter is not a pleasnt thought and still raises issues about how a loving God can exercise any kind of penalty toward the wicked.
A number of years ago Meredith Kline, a brilliant Old Testament theologian whose writings have unfortunately been neglected, introduced the concept of intrusion into the discussion of herem warfare. kline reminds us that the punishment for sin is death. The lesson that rebellion---and all sin is rebellion---leadsto death is made clear in the Garden of Eden. It is only because of God's extraordinary grace that Adam and Eve were not killed on the spot they ate the fruit of the tree. Indeed, it is because of that grace that any of us breathe. The period of God's extraordinary grace, often called common grace, is a special circumstance. In this light, we should not be amazed that God ordered the death of the Canaanities, but rather we should stand in amazement that he lets anyone live. The Conquest, according to Kline, involves the intrusion of the ethics of the end times, the consummation, into the period of common grace. In a sense, the destruction of the Canaanites is a preview of the final judgment."
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DLW
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| Posted 6/3/2003 10:59 AM (GMT -6) | | Yes, but hasn't Jesus' death on the cross made it so that entire nations are unlikely to fall so deep into sin that they are beyond hope?
Moreover, if it is God's prerogative, that doesn't mean we Christians shouldn't use much caution in the ways we permit some violence.
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honorman
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| Posted 6/3/2003 12:22 PM (GMT -6) | | The quote was about God's prerogative not man's. Read the quote again, DLW. You obviously did not understand or comtemplate the timeframe the author is talking about.
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DLW
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| Posted 6/3/2003 12:46 PM (GMT -6) | | Well if you are going to post quotes, it would be helpful if you provided more information so we can understand the timeframe and your own intention regarding what we should interpret the quote as implying...
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