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Date Joined Jul 2001 Total Posts : 9890 | Posted 7/3/2003 5:31 PM (GMT -6) |   | (Did I punctuate that correctly?)
This thread is about the "issue" of many persons and the women from whom they are the "issue." (pun) Samuel is Hannah's "issue." Samson had a mom--I can't remember right now her name. My own wife has kids. My mom prayed for me.
But I want to start this off (Have at it, Electra!!!) with this one passage from Genesis:
quote: "And Jehovah God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, cursed art thou above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life: and I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed: he shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel." Genesis 2:14-15
Hannah brought that up again. Mary brought it clearly into focus. Some have said that the "snake" had to wonder, at every birth, just "which" one "IT" would be. The "snake" tried to massacre the innocent with the Bethlehem innocents. But "out of Egypt" God called his servant...and Jesus and Mary and Joseph were kept safe "until that day."
This thread is, then, about WOMENS' ISSUES.
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Date Joined Jul 2001 Total Posts : 9890 | Posted 7/4/2003 3:53 AM (GMT -6) |   |
[font=Book Antiqua]1 Samuel, chapter 1
quote: 1: There was a certain man of Ramatha'im-zo'phim of the hill country of E'phraim, whose name was Elka'nah the son of Jero'ham, son of Eli'hu, son of Tohu, son of Zuph, an E'phraimite. 2: He had two wives; the name of the one was Hannah, and the name of the other Penin'nah. And Penin'nah had children, but Hannah had no children. 3: Now this man used to go up year by year from his city to worship and to sacrifice to the LORD of hosts at Shiloh, where the two sons of Eli, Hophni and Phin'ehas, were priests of the LORD. 4: On the day when Elka'nah sacrificed, he would give portions to Penin'nah his wife and to all her sons and daughters; 5: and, although he loved Hannah, he would give Hannah only one portion, because the LORD had closed her womb. 6: And her rival used to provoke her sorely, to irritate her, because the LORD had closed her womb. 7: So it went on year by year; as often as she went up to the house of the LORD, she used to provoke her. Therefore Hannah wept and would not eat. 8: And Elka'nah, her husband, said to her, "Hannah, why do you weep? And why do you not eat? And why is your heart sad? Am I not more to you than ten sons?" 9: After they had eaten and drunk in Shiloh, Hannah rose. Now Eli the priest was sitting on the seat beside the doorpost of the temple of the LORD. 10: She was deeply distressed and prayed to the LORD, and wept bitterly. 11: And she vowed a vow and said, "O LORD of hosts, if thou wilt indeed look on the affliction of thy maidservant, and remember me, and not forget thy maidservant, but wilt give to thy maidservant a son, then I will give him to the LORD all the days of his life, and no razor shall touch his head." 12: As she continued praying before the LORD, Eli observed her mouth. 13: Hannah was speaking in her heart; only her lips moved, and her voice was not heard; therefore Eli took her to be a drunken woman. 14: And Eli said to her, "How long will you be drunken? Put away your wine from you." 15: But Hannah answered, "No, my lord, I am a woman sorely troubled; I have drunk neither wine nor strong drink, but I have been pouring out my soul before the LORD. 16: Do not regard your maidservant as a base woman, for all along I have been speaking out of my great anxiety and vexation." 17: Then Eli answered, "Go in peace, and the God of Israel grant your petition which you have made to him." 18: And she said, "Let your maidservant find favor in your eyes." Then the woman went her way and ate, and her countenance was no longer sad. 19: They rose early in the morning and worshiped before the LORD; then they went back to their house at Ramah. And Elka'nah knew Hannah his wife, and the LORD remembered her; 20: and in due time Hannah conceived and bore a son, and she called his name Samuel, for she said, "I have asked him of the LORD." 21: And the man Elka'nah and all his house went up to offer to the LORD the yearly sacrifice, and to pay his vow. 22: But Hannah did not go up, for she said to her husband, "As soon as the child is weaned, I will bring him, that he may appear in the presence of the LORD, and abide there for ever." 23: Elka'nah her husband said to her, "Do what seems best to you, wait until you have weaned him; only, may the LORD establish his word." So the woman remained and nursed her son, until she weaned him. 24: And when she had weaned him, she took him up with her, along with a three-year-old bull, an ephah of flour, and a skin of wine; and she brought him to the house of the LORD at Shiloh; and the child was young. 25: Then they slew the bull, and they brought the child to Eli. 26: And she said, "Oh, my lord! As you live, my lord, I am the woman who was standing here in your presence, praying to the LORD. 27: For this child I prayed; and the LORD has granted me my petition which I made to him. 28: Therefore I have lent him to the LORD; as long as he lives, he is lent to the LORD." And they worshiped the LORD there.
1 Samuel, chapter 2 verse 1:
Hannah also prayed and said, "My heart exults in the LORD; my strength is exalted in the LORD. My mouth derides my enemies, because I rejoice in thy salvation. ...
NOTICE THE SIMILARITY BETWEEN THE PRAYER OF THESE TWO WOMEN!!!
Hannah:
quote: "My heart exults in the LORD; my strength is exalted in the LORD. My mouth derides my enemies, because I rejoice in thy salvation. 2: "There is none holy like the LORD, there is none besides thee; there is no rock like our God. 3: Talk no more so very proudly, let not arrogance come from your mouth; for the LORD is a God of knowledge, and by him actions are weighed. 4: The bows of the mighty are broken, but the feeble gird on strength. 5: Those who were full have hired themselves out for bread, but those who were hungry have ceased to hunger. The barren has borne seven, but she who has many children is forlorn. 6: The LORD kills and brings to life; he brings down to Sheol and raises up. 7: The LORD makes poor and makes rich; he brings low, he also exalts. 8: He raises up the poor from the dust; he lifts the needy from the ash heap, to make them sit with princes and inherit a seat of honor. For the pillars of the earth are the LORD'S, and on them he has set the world. 9: "He will guard the feet of his faithful ones; but the wicked shall be cut off in darkness; for not by might shall a man prevail. 10: The adversaries of the LORD shall be broken to pieces; against them he will thunder in heaven. The LORD will judge the ends of the earth; he will give strength to his king, and exalt the power of his anointed."
Mary:
quote: "My soul magnifies the Lord, 47: and my spirit rejoices in God my Savior, 48: for he has regarded the low estate of his handmaiden. For behold, henceforth all generations will call me blessed; 49: for he who is mighty has done great things for me, and holy is his name. 50: And his mercy is on those who fear him from generation to generation. 51: He has shown strength with his arm, he has scattered the proud in the imagination of their hearts, 52: he has put down the mighty from their thrones, and exalted those of low degree; 53: he has filled the hungry with good things, and the rich he has sent empty away. 54: He has helped his servant Israel, in remembrance of his mercy, 55: as he spoke to our fathers, to Abraham and to his posterity for ever."
Wow!

Edited by - Al2Si2H4O9 on 07/04/2003 09:00:58 AM | | Back to Top | | |
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The reality of the Godhead, so to speak, is intrinsically relational - or, as Basil of Caesarea put it, God is 'a kind of continuous and indivisible koinonia, (Letter 38, Migne, PG 32, 332a). - FERGUS KERR OP | | Back to Top | | |
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