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PotOnWheel
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| Posted 6/1/2003 2:46 PM (GMT -6) |   | Here is a small portion by Gregory of Nazianzus. In it he argues that Christ's manness was not "big enough" to crowd out his Diety. Good solid truth. And so Christ had BOTH a human mind and a divine mind. The Divine was his as God, and the human mind he "assumed" in his incarnation from Mary along with his human soul and human body in order that we might be saved.
But this post is about something much smaller!
WHY is it that some contemporary "thinkers"  believe that for God to act in time he can not be BIGGER THAN time?
How odd.
How odd.
How odd.
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Keep then the whole man, and mingle Godhead therewith, that you may benefit me in my completeness. But, he asserts, He could not contain Two perfect Natures. Not if you only look at Him in a bodily fashion. For a bushel measure will not hold two bushels, nor will the space of one body hold two or more bodies. But if you will look at what is mental and incorporeal, remember that I in my one personality can contain soul and reason and mind and the Holy Spirit; and before me this world, by which I mean the system of things visible and invisible, contained Father, Son, and Holy Ghost. For such is the nature of intellectual Existences, that they can mingle with one another and with bodies, incorporeally and invisibly. For many sounds are comprehended by one ear; and the eyes of many are occupied by the same visible objects, and the smell by odours; nor are the senses narrowed by each other, or crowded out, nor the objects of sense diminished by the multitude of the perceptions. But where is there mind of man or angel so perfect in comparison of the Godhead that the presence of the greater must crowd out the other?
www.monachos.net/patristics/christology/apollinarius_greg1.shtml
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"But where is there mind of man or angel so perfect in comparison of the Godhead that the presence of the greater must crowd out the other?"
But where is there SOMETHING CREATED--SUCH AS TIME so perfect/OR BIG in comparison of the Godhead that the presence of the greater must crowd out the other?
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PotOnWheel
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| Posted 6/2/2003 12:05 PM (GMT -6) | | quote:
...before me this world, by which I mean the system of things visible and invisible, contained Father, Son, and Holy Ghost. For such is the nature of intellectual Existences, that they can mingle with one another and with bodies, incorporeally and invisibly.
That's a nice picture of God WITHIN the Creation and also NOT CONFINED WITHIN it too.
Seems that BOTH the neo-classical and the neo-"Open" views confine God within time/sequence. (Dispite how the Open view sometimes accuses what they call the "classical" of barring God outside of time, when the "neo-classical" speak of "fore"-knowledge they speak of knowledge within time of time that has not happened. But God's knowledge is not confined within time.) Seems also that the neo-"Open" view makes some adjustments to the Trinity to make things fit bette, by trying to build "sequence" into the Trinity. | | Back to Top | | |
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