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PotOnWheel
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   Posted 8/9/2004 6:13 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.

Paul writes: Whereof I am made a minister, according to the administration of God which is given to me for you, to fulfill the word of God;

That's pretty straight forward: Paul is given a job, to minister, and he's given a group to minister two (Gentiles for him, Jews for James), and he works to fulfill that job.


Plain and simple. (Like all the other verses you tried to twist -- A full first to posts full.)

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1way
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   Posted 8/11/2004 6:31 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
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Changing the translated word does not overturn anything.
    Colossians 1:25 of which I became a minister according to the stewardship from God which was given to me for you, to fulfill the word of God,
You quoted "administration", I quoted "dispensation", now I quote "stewardship", they are all good translations and none of them overturn or obscure the point.

Your negating generalizations are becoming tiresome, I did not (try to) "twist" anything. Considering my first two posts, and these follow ups, it is non-compelling to hear your non-arguments, rash generalizations, and baseless accusations against us dispensationalists. You did not stand corrected for arguing against the idea that God revealed to Paul that he was given the charge to fulfill the word of God (written = scriptures), and to Peter that Paul's writings was considered scripture, and so as such, it follows that
    Romans 16:25 Now to Him who is able to establish you according to my gospel and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery kept secret since the world began
    26 but now has been made manifest, and by the prophetic Scriptures has been made known to all nations, according to the commandment of the everlasting God, for obedience to the faith----
fits well with Paul's writings in mind for being considered scripture. Actually, the modifying phrase, "but now has been made manifest", further refines what is in mind from the proceeding description which was all about Paul's teachings, gospel, preaching, which was according to revelation of the mystery that was kept secret since the world began.


So the context constrains us quite nicely, it is talking about Paul's gospel and mystery revelation for this dispensation.


I see no reason to be dissuaded from what the holy scriptures teach. I'm happy believing them when they repeatedly say that the revelation for this dispensation was not otherwise (or previously) revealed until finally given to Paul to give to us.

Paul, our minister of the dispensation of the Grace of God to give to us, according to the mystery kept secret in God(!), "to fulfill the word of God".
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PotOnWheel
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   Posted 9/5/2004 3:44 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
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Originally posted by PotOnWheel


Paul writes: Whereof I am made a minister, according to the administration of God which is given to me for you, to fulfill the word of God;

That's pretty straight forward: Paul is given a job, to minister, and he's given a group to minister two (Gentiles for him, Jews for James), and he works to fulfill that job.


Plain and simple. (Like all the other verses you tried to twist -- A full first to posts full.)



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