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Herb O. Buckland
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| Posted 8/30/2002 5:27 AM (GMT -6) |   | Hello fellow THREES enthusiasts!
Reading the information on threes that have been provided has been of extreme value in my own research. If anyone objects to my usage of some of the examples on my web...pages (with full credit going to the author/s), please let me know.
As for what we can do with the accumulation of threes information, there are several avenues that can be suggested. One of course is the book route, with or without a primary theological objective. We can also consider using the information for a documentary which might begin with "IN THE BEGINNING," where patterns-of-three in physics proceeds onto a discussion of patterns-of-three in genetics that is followed by threes in anthropology, civilization, religion, philosophy, etc...
While I like the idea of a documentary, I still prefer the idea of a full-length motion picture that is actually a sequel of three. So many ideas could be discussed which would invariably influence millions of people to deeply reflect on their present world view. While some would be undoubtedly convinced that the "three" is a representation of a god's fingerprint impressed upon life because of their present religious faith, others would come to see god in science, and still others would be brought closer to an appreciation of religion, philosophy, metaphysics, science, etc...
Whatever route we eventually decide on, we can address such things as why some people appear to acknowledge the "three" more readily than others, and especially how to help those who are just beginning to become aware of such.
We can also address different origin theories for the recurrence of threes in so many areas, and also possible future scenarios.
Imagine if you will a documentary (or book, or motion picture) in which different characters assume the role of those who advocate a religious perspective, a philosophy perspective, a metaphysical perspective, an education perspective, a criminologist's perspective, a linguist's perspective, a geneticist's perspective, a mathematician's perspective, etc...
Millions of peoples lives will be touched by such, particularly if we also include discussions regarding other number patterns such as the 7, 40, 13, 666, 888, 2, 5, etc...
There has never been a comphensive analysis of the "three" from so many perspectives being intergrated. Usually, most people focus the "three" (in its various forms) on a singular topic such as Druidism, the trinity, Irish triads, a specific product, or a specific idea related to a particular subject such as the id- ego- superego in psychology, the tripartite structure of Georges Dumezil,
or some other such singular orientation.
Surely, if we claim that the "three" is a pattern of god because it is in physics (neutrons-protons-electrons), genetics (triplet codon system in DNA), and the placement of the Earth in being third from a source of solar energy, aren't we being negligent if we do not consider a broader scope of three-patterned examples in other things such as language (all languages are said to have a subject-object-verb), musical triads, as well as all the many physiological triads?
It is quite possible that each of you have been called upon to re-evaluate the "three" from a never-before-considered theological perspective which transcends the customary three-patterned concepts involving the trinity.
Jesus, Mohammed, Buddha, and hundreds of theologians throughout the ages are examples of those who had re-evaluated accepted views in order to find a greater truth for the betterment of humanity. Those who have been touched with an ability to see the threes may thus be those who are called upon to see things differently for a reason. No doubt, Jesus, Mohammed, and Buddha are examples of those who took three steps forward. Are each of us willing to venture beyond our first step even if it means being ostracized, rejected, and perhaps even severely abused by contemporary society simply because we see something differently than most?
One of the difficulties in getting together to organize a project is that those I encounter with a similar interest, live miles away. Besides, we will need funding for such a project, particularly since our approach to the "threes" will be an original idea and may thus encounter opposition from sponsors who think in stereo-typical conventional ways.
Besides a book, documentary, and full-length motion picture(s), we should consider cassette tapes, introductory brochures, and posters.
Speaking of posters, if anyone is interested in a "threes" poster, please let me know.
Herb
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Springs
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| Posted 8/30/2002 6:23 PM (GMT -6) | | quote:
It is quite possible that each of you have been called upon to re-evaluate the "three" from a never-before-considered theological perspective which transcends the customary three-patterned concepts involving the trinity.
Actually, I think that was just Meph. Course he never really did like THIS thread. What's the transcendant perspective?
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Are each of us willing to venture beyond our first step even if it means being ostracized, rejected, and perhaps even severely abused by contemporary society simply because we see something differently than most?
Doc's already done that with his theology.
Is it triple transcendant? 
-S
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GregBoyd
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| Posted 8/30/2002 9:42 PM (GMT -6) | | Well, Herb wins the "enthusaistic about threes" award! This dude is SERIOUS about this three-thing.
Two questions Herb.
1) How did you find out about the Christus Victor sight?
2) Could you flesh out more how seeing a threefold pattern in things results in the betterment of humanity? We used to joke around here about a "cult of three," but you seem to attach real spiritual significance to it. Aside from just weird curiosity, why would anyone be interested in, or benefit from, a book or documentary on threes?
Nice having you aboard Herb.
Doc
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Springs
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| Posted 9/1/2002 6:36 PM (GMT -6) | | 'erb,
I checked out yer site. ewww.
Are these three of your favorite things?
racism
facism
and the satanic?
Hey BBBC,
He's got a picture of Bigfoots thang.
I guess now you have your proof.
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barneebus
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| Posted 9/2/2002 11:07 AM (GMT -6) | | I'm just interested in THREES of any sort.
I guess I'm not as spiritual as the rest of the crowd here.
Because after the Trinity, my interest in THREES runs to breakfast, lunch, and dinner.
-Bar
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Springs
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| Posted 9/2/2002 12:09 PM (GMT -6) | | Allriightyyy then.
I knew Asimov before I knew I knew Lewis. Here's one of my favorite threes from Herb's site.
Asimov's Three Laws of Robotics:
1. A robot may not injure a human being, or, through inaction, allow a human being to come to harm.
2. A robot must obey the orders given it by human beings except where such orders would conflict with the First Law.
3. A robot must protect its own existence as long as such protection does not conflict with the First or Second Law.
From Handbook of Robotics, 56th Edition, 2058 A.D., as quoted in I, Robot. In Robots and Empire (ch. 63), the "Zeroth Law" is extrapolated, and the other Three Laws modified (into one law) accordingly:
A robot may not injure humanity or, through inaction, allow humanity to come to harm.
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Herb O. Buckland
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| Posted 9/5/2002 2:06 PM (GMT -6) | | Hello Everyone interested in threes!
To answer some of the questions posed at this site, let us start with the query as to how I came across this forum. I found it purely through a serendipitous effort of searching the internet for threes-related sites. Please understand that I do not consider myself to be particularly religious, though many of the poems and ideas I propose appear to have a theological basis. And why shouldn't they? As a person living in the USA, I have been subjected to christology from several different perspectives through personal experiences with church attendance as well as lengthy discussions with theologians of different perspectives.
As for having any preferance for such things as facism, racism, and and satanism, this is, sadly, a misinterpretation and misreading of my web pages. When a broad research project is in progress, there are many excursions on a trial and error basis that must be explored.
Just because I speak of racism, facism, and satanism, does not mean I advocate such views. On the contrary, it saddens me to find that I have once again ventured into an area where research about the threes phenomena is met with so much understanding about the need to even venture into areas that one may find disgusting, but one must do so, if on a temporary basis, inorder to catalogue cognitive grouping patterns-of-threes in these areas.
If I discuss satanism by mentioning the three-patterned 666 symbol from an alternative perspective, it is absurd to think that I am advocating satanism.
It is quite obvious that I have come across yet another group that is not really interested in the threes phenomena from a broad perspective of analysis which often times requires treks into original ideas. While some of you on an individual basis may be, and would say so in private, your public views are extremely conservative and I have no right to subject you to alternative views which may make you question beliefs that you do not want to have questioned...
You simply want to address the entire phenomena of threes from a theological perspective with no alternative suggestions.
I appologize for stepping on your toes. I had no idea I would find so many people in one place who take all comments with a strict literal sense, even when my disclaimer listed on my site gives a full documented statement of my usage of metaphor.
Everywhere I go, it is the same thing. I now know how Christopher Columbus must have felt in trying to explain his views when so many still believed the world was flat and you would fall off the edge if you traveled too far. Heaven forbid that I should tell anyone at this site about a trail I have found that is different from the commonly accepted views.
I sincerely believe Greg has a unique perspective on the pheomena of threes, but that he holds back from a total expression thereof due to the nature of this site and those who have chosen to read and make replies to the comments. He has much to offer and I bid him the best in his efforts in finding his answers with respect to the threes phenomena. I honestly wanted to be of some help in my discussions of threes, but I can not be in a place where I am so misunderstood.
Thank you for your comments. I say farewell.
Herb
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eaglecam
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| Posted 9/5/2002 5:38 PM (GMT -6) | | I just started this thread two days ago and so far am only up to page 16. No one to that point has mentioned my favorite OT scripture of the THREE in One:
"Come near me and listen to this: "From the first announcement I have not spoken in secret; at the time it nappens I am there." And now the Sovereign LORD (1)has sent me (2)with his Spirit(3). Isaiah48:16
The "me" (2) is referring to God himself. Cf. Vs. 12
Blessings...
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PotOnWheel
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| Posted 9/5/2002 5:57 PM (GMT -6) | | | | |
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GregBoyd
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| Posted 9/5/2002 7:13 PM (GMT -6) | | While there is a certain appropriateness to Herb's checking out after THREE posts, I am surprised that one critical comment -- from Springs no less  love ya girl could buckle him under so quickly. I mean, you gotta get hit at least 333 times before you can cry "persecution" or even "I'm misunderstood" let alone "these folks are narrow." Herb, how are you going to sail the ocean blue and discover the earth is round unless you're willing to put up with some rough seas? How can you enlighten us if you run after the first critical comment.
And brother, I didn't read your sight very thoroughly at all (6 minutes, actually), but from what I could discern, if you're going to put out the sort of thing you put out, you BETTER be willing to defend yourself. I mean, the "Kill Kill Kill" thread caught my attention -- and it was SCAREY. And you weren't just reveiwing the "threes" in criminal laws or such -- something that might have been beneficial. You were ADVOCATING a mantra "Kill kill kill."
If you want to help the world discover the beauty of threes, THIS AIN'T THE WAY TO DO IT. Whatever gems of insight your research has procured, it would be quickly lost by sentiments like those expressed on that thread.
Herb, I think it would do YOU a great deal of good to stick around here and GET critical feedback. WE all need it, except me.  At the very least, we need to hear how we are being perceived -- ESPECIALLY if you have a message you want to be received (as in a documentary, book, movie... stuff you've talked about).
Till then, fair thee well sailor. Don't fall off the end of the earth.
Doc
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eaglecam
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| Posted 9/6/2002 5:12 AM (GMT -6) | | Back again...
I forgot to mention - Thanks to all of you for 1) stretching my mind, 2) enlarging my vocabulary and 3)increasing my appreciation of Threeness.
:-)
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Springs
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| Posted 9/11/2002 12:13 PM (GMT -6) | | Herb!
Don't go!!! Do you realize how much grief I will take if I get blamed for driving you off this site? Especially from the threeness thread. We love threeness guru's here. I'm apologize for any exhibitions of self righteousness. Forgive me and share some crazy threes from your site with us.
Herb wrote:
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I have no right to subject you to alternative views which may make you question beliefs that you do not want to have questioned...
Subject away! Seriously. We put up with Mephi don't we?
I even wrote a post about seeing Bigfoot, so we may have more in common than we think!
Springs
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Magneton
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| Posted 2/27/2003 2:04 PM (GMT -6) | | Monday is the big day for the cult of three-ness:
03/03/03
Any ideas on how to celebrate? It only comes once a millenium!
Magneton
"Sometimes, the road is less traveled for a reason." Anon
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Electra
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| Posted 3/3/2003 3:26 AM (GMT -6) | | quote:
Monday is the big day for the cult of three-ness:
03/03/03
Any ideas on how to celebrate? It only comes once a millenium!
Magneton
"Sometimes, the road is less traveled for a reason." Anon
Here’s an email I received about how some people plan to spend the day:
Wouldn't it be great if all the Christians & Jews in the world or at least in our country would stop what they are doing and pray on the same day?...We could make 03-03-03 God's Day...
What about stopping all activity together--at 03:03 in the afternoon?... Then it would be 03-03-03-03-03. And that won't happen again for another thousand years (in 3003).
Faith is the doorway all miracles come through, but prayer is the key that unlocks the door...He was there for all of us, that day on the cross...
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GregBoyd
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| Posted 4/16/2003 6:47 PM (GMT -6) | | I'm steeped in Middle Platonism these days (work for Myth of the Blueprint. I've mentioned it before, but it's worth recalling that THREES permeate Middle Platonism. One reoccurring theme I don't think I've noted before is that they generally hold there are THREE ways to God.
Negation (God is NOT like...)
Analogy (God is like...)
Ascent (good-> better-> best)
The Middle Platonist Moderatus (before the time of Christ) postulated that all being originates in "three One's." (Three unified ultimate principles).
Most Middle Platonists postulated a threefold divine hierarchy taking various forms, e.g. The One, divine Mind, divine Spirit, or "Father," "Creator" and "Creation" (the world being a divine principle).
Xenocrates, I've previously noted, postulated that the world was composed of triangles (hinted at in Plato's Timaeus.) But we have only fragments of his work, so we can't know what exactly he was getting at.
The Cult of Three lives on!!!
Good night
Good night
Good night
Greg
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victoryword
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| Posted 4/17/2003 2:19 AM (GMT -6) | | I wonder what will happen on June 6, 2006
06-06-06
or 666
If your beliefs cannot be supported by Scripture, they ain't worth supporting
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JET
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| Posted 11/11/2003 5:16 AM (GMT -6) | | Now we gotta add to this thread . . .
the famous "Belts Triangle of Whatchmacallit"! | | Back to Top | | |
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Blood Washed Heretic
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| Posted 11/11/2003 6:52 AM (GMT -6) | | How bout Tolkien (uh, ROTK spoilers  )?
Three elven-rings for three powerful beings (Elrond, Galadriel, Gandalf)
Nine in the Fellowship
Nine Ringwraiths
Three kindreds of the elves
Elrond had three children (Elladan, Elrohir, and Arwen)
Three musical themes of Illuvatar in the creation of Arda
Three major battles in the War of the Ring (Helm's Deep, Pelennor Fields, The Morannon)
The events in LOTR are at the end of the Third Age
Three Istari (Wizards) mentioned in LOTR (Gandalf is good, Saruman is bad, Radagast is indifferent)
It takes three to destroy the Ring (Frodo, Sam, Gollum)
Actually, the good philologist seemed more obsessed with twos, but I wanted to play too. Even though I'm way late... 
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timlings
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| Posted 11/13/2003 11:55 AM (GMT -6) | | This has probably already been mentioned... [don't have time to read 29 pages of threes!]
When I was doing a scriptwriting class, the amount of threes in story structure was quite significant.
We were always advised to do things in threes - 3 tests for the hero, 3 things go wrong, 3 ways of overcoming, etc. Always makes sense. If it were 1 test, not challenge; 2 tests is still too easy; 4 tests is boring.
Then there's the 3-act story structure - beginning, middle, end; normality, disturbance, return to normality.
Anyway
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