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DLW
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Posted 9/6/2003 7:39 AM (GMT -6)

Meph,
I could use a source for the below paragraph..

In recognition of the limitations of my knowledge and of the tentative nature of my probable beliefs and opinions; such ought to lead me to a tolerance of those people holding beliefs different from mine. Instead of attacking the beliefs of others, I should strive to find better grounds for my own. And when I encounter conflicting testimonies, e.g. historians, I can only weigh all sides and form a belief, conjecture, guess, doubt, or disbelief, as the case seems to warrant.

dlw

Niebuhr thought that sustained moral energy in politics depended on religion's power to mobilize reason along with self-transcending love. The prophetic tradition, meanwhile, gave Jews and Christians some protection against the temptation to identify their social causes with God's will. Lincoln's second inaugural address expressed the prophetic insight, "The almighty has His own purposes."

Tigress
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Posted 9/8/2003 11:54 AM (GMT -6)

Probably with

our lives - trying to be as loving, generous and selfless towards others as we can be.

with our relationships - being Jesus to those who don't know Him by loving them unconditionally, being there for them and truly listening to them, taking them seriously with respect and without judgement.

with our talents - pointing to God when others praise us for our accomplishments.

with our opportunities - if the subject of God, death, the afterlife or something related to these things comes up, pray for the Holy Spirit to speak through you and for the other person to be open to what you'll be saying.

with our prayers and thought life - even if we can't verbally say something about Jesus, I'm positive that our prayers for the lost are still effective somehow. A person can come to Jesus through reading the Bible, without another human saying anything to him or her. Even if a person is in a hotel room with the Bible in the bedside table, maybe the Holy Spirit will influence them to read it.

Tigress

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One Love
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Posted 9/10/2003 6:44 AM (GMT -6)

DLW:

quote:
Meph,

I could use a source for the below paragraph..
In recognition of the limitations of my knowledge and of the tentative nature of my probable beliefs and opinions; such ought to lead me to a tolerance of those people holding beliefs different from mine. Instead of attacking the beliefs of others, I should strive to find better grounds for my own. And when I encounter conflicting testimonies, e.g. historians, I can only weigh all sides and form a belief, conjecture, guess, doubt, or disbelief, as the case seems to warrant.

What source? I made that up using Tim’s thing as a jump-off point.

Check Tim’s original post and my whole adaptation.

http://www.christusvictorministries.org/gbfront/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=2518

"I've been converted three times. The first was to traditional Christianity; the second to honesty and the third was to the Love of God and man (humanity) The third was the real conversion. The first two were preliminary."

--Nels Ferre, a theologian speaking of his spiritual journey with the Triune God

One Love
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Posted 9/10/2003 6:46 AM (GMT -6)

DLW:

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Is residing in a democratic system one of those contextualities that should affect how we give effective witness?

Whatever socio-economic system you would find yourself in would be part of your “context”, would it not?

DLW
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Posted 9/10/2003 8:19 AM (GMT -6)

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Originally posted by MephEternal

DLW:
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Is residing in a democratic system one of those contextualities that should affect how we give effective witness?

Whatever socio-economic system you would find yourself in would be part of your “context”, would it not?

Sure, but we need to go beyond that to also stress how fallible judgement regarding discerning the exegetical implications for what is right practice in a given conduct and since these judgements fall under the purview of ecclesiastical leadership, they can also include deliberations on ecclesiology, or how we govern ourselves as members of churches today. Most protestant theology doesn't deal with this. Most Catholic theology is just apologetic for the status-quo arrangements. But, I think it matters since that is often where we give our working answers to the question of how should we evangelize.

dlw

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