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barryatk
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   Posted 11/18/2004 6:11 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Hey All!

Seems like this discussion isn't going anywhere. I know about the concern of the split between occult/truly spiritual. I do believe concern is needed. Isn't it true that satan would want to counterfeit everything of God...the light, the truth, the manifestations? The magicians and Moses had a show-down... both could do some amazing things, yes? Is this not still going on in earth right now? I believe it is. Seems Spen has seen lots of supposed Christians and prophets who later were exposed as very "off" and seems now Spen has no quarter for anyknown person ministering in this way. I call it a fine example of throwing baby and bath water out.

It is never going to be impossible for us Christians to be tricked. Satan has had 6000 years to figure out what works! I do want to hear Spen's experience, hopefully to learn how to avoid more pitfalling for the rest of us. I also think one pitfall is to shun the whole supernatural side and the true Oracles of God, trying to be safe and sound above all else. As for me, I want to be like Moses, out there throwing my rod down and seeing it swallow up the magician's snakes. I'll not be there if I am walking in fear of being deceived or of becoming a deceiver myself. This is where we need Christian Community so bad and it seems so lacking. I do believe scripture holds that we hear from God and we hear Him through His Ministers...both human and angelic. If we hear some radical thing, we are to submit the message to the local leadership and get good counsel. I admire a minister with a limp... a guy who's been knocked around, fallen, and gotten up again. I have grave reservations about a guy with zero history...it's so unlikely there's no story of failings. I beleive God wants me living a life of risk...risking hurt and disappointment and sometimes maybe even missing Him, all in a learning process of becoming a strong minister with a strong message and a huge confidence in God.

I've been reading the story of Joan of Arc! She had visions and visitations and accomplished things militarily as a 17 yr old that no man could conceive. It happened because she had such conviction that it overflowed onto those around her. I pray God's encouragement would flow to those around us, like it did in Joan"s Day!!


Do you guys not read Cindy Jacobs, John Bevere, or Charles Kraft for more teaching?
Barrry
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Albert Einstein
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   Posted 11/18/2004 6:13 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
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Originally posted by barryatk
I've been reading the story of Joan of Arc! She had visions and visitations and accomplished things militarily as a 17 yr old that no man could conceive. It happened because she had such conviction that it overflowed onto those around her. I pray God's encouragement would flow to those around us, like it did in Joan"s Day!!


"Oh but to shine like Joan of Arc, you must be prepared to burn"

-- "Green Isaac" by Prefab Sprout



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