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khne01
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Date Joined Oct 2004
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Posted 11/15/2004 10:22 AM (GMT -6)

What are your interpetations?

Does this not mean that by pulling the weeds(that we also destroy the wheat)....

I was informed by someone that the servant was an angel....not a christian...

Why would this matter,
For if he told an angel not to destroy evil (the weeds);
Would not the same aply to a christian...

spenlake
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Posted 11/15/2004 10:30 AM (GMT -6)

quote:
Originally posted by khne01

What are your interpetations?

Does this not mean that by pulling the weeds(that we also destroy the wheat)....

I was informed by someone that the servant was an angel....not a christian...

Why would this matter,
For if he told an angel not to destroy evil (the weeds);
Would not the same aply to a christian...

The Son of Man will send forth His angels, and they will gather out of His kingdom all stumbling blocks, and those who commit lawlessness, and will throw them into the furnace of fire; in that place there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

I wrote to you not to associate with any so-called brother if he is an immoral person, or covetous, or an idolater, or a reviler, or a drunkard, or a swindler—not even to eat with such a one...REMOVE THE WICKED MAN FROM AMONG YOURSELVES.

For many deceivers have gone out into the world, those who do not acknowledge Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh...Anyone who goes too far and does not abide in the teaching of Christ, does not have God...anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, do not receive him into your house, and do not give him a greeting; for the one who gives him a greeting participates in his evil deeds.

While this may refer to the restoration of the Kingdom in which the civil authority and the spiritual authority are rejoined and God weilds the sword instead of secular leaders, it is certainly refering to an end judgment. Until that time we are told there will be immoral, lawless people attempting to deceive the church in the world. The tares are left in the world by God and will not beremoved by God until the end. The tares and lawless ones are not to be welcomed into the church but the church is to judge itself and keep itself pure and free from manifest evil and wrong teachings.

This is how I understand it based upon Jesus' interpretation:

The one who sows the good seed is the Son of Man, and the field is the world; and as for the good seed, these are the sons of the kingdom; and the tares are the sons of the evil one; and the enemy who sowed them is the devil, and the harvest is the end of the age.

How do you?

Spen Lake

khne01
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Posted 11/18/2004 12:11 AM (GMT -6)

This is how I understand it based upon Jesus' interpretation:

The one who sows the good seed is the Son of Man, and the field is the world; and as for the good seed, these are the sons of the kingdom; and the tares are the sons of the evil one; and the enemy who sowed them is the devil, and the harvest is the end of the age.

How do you?
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As you do.

question about The servant...
I first thought it might be a (Mature Christian)...
Does it not also mean that we as humans are not to destroy evil...
For he tells his servant (an angel?) not to pull the weeds because He will also destroy the wheat.
I don't see myself as having better skills than an angel,
For I can't read the hearts of others.....

I tried to use this parible
as evidence that a christian should not go to war.

It became obvious that what we were doing was pointing out each others sin so I..
1.stopped comunication on politics.
2.found a good book of Greg Boyd's and sent it to him.
3.ask for another book of Greg Boyd's for christmas,in hopes that he might read it.

spenlake
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Date Joined Jan 2004
Total Posts : 1050

Posted 11/18/2004 10:24 AM (GMT -6)

quote:
I tried to use this parible
as evidence that a christian should not go to war.

I believe that I agree with you, a Christian should not go to war and kill people in the name of Christ on the authority that he is a Christian. I believe, however, that citizens can, and at times, should go to war. The fact that some citizen may be Christians does not necessarily mean that these people are going to war "because" they are Christians to enforce His Kingdom. They are simply going as citizens to enforce the authority of the Civil sword that God said he had given to the civil government who exercises it upon its citizens and enemies.

Spen Lake

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