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Violin for God
Luke, I am your father. --Nooooooooo!!!!!




Date Joined Dec 2004
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   Posted 12/1/2004 10:16 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Hi, I'm new to the forum here but it seems that some of my questions may get answered here... so here goes...

(I'll try to keep this short...)
I'm going to be giving a presentation on Friday for my German class at the University based on a recently published book of letters between Barth and Brunner from 1916-1966 (not in English yet--I'm working on translating a bit for a translation project as well... whew!)

Some of the theological terminology, especially being in German, has been really difficult to sort through and I've been trying to get a feel for where both Barth and Brunner stood, theologically speaking. I understand that they had this major dispute over Natural Theology (evidence of God's fingerprint in nature) which really strained their friendship, but I'm not sure exactly why Barth was so adamantly opposed to Brunner in this area. It's clear that Barth was very strongly advocating the objectivity of the Faith... he stressed that a lot in his letters as well, but was he opposed to Natural Theology because it emphasized the "experiental" and subjectivity of experience? It's also clear that Barth and Brunner were really battling Kantian philosophy and Schleiermacher-ian (liberal--ie, experience supercedes the written Word/doctrine) theology.

Also, what is this "crisis theology"? How did Barth and Brunner view Calvinism... Brunner seems to lean more in the Calvinist direction as he mentioned Calvin quite a lot in his letters... but then again, I couldn't quite understand all of his commentary regarding Calvin.

ANY help on this would be greatly appreciated.

Part of my goal in this presentation is somewhat evangelistic... the teacher is athiest, I think many of the students have a more pluralistic view as well. Either way, I want to find an indirect way to get them to think of their own beliefs.

Thanks and God bless!
VFG
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Alan Rhoda
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   Posted 12/2/2004 10:31 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Welcome to the forum, VFG! I don't know much about either Barth or Brunner, but I found a lengthy encyclopedia article on the Internet that might be of some help.

cspar181.uah.edu/RbS/JOB/barth.html

God bless,
Alan
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Violin for God
Luke, I am your father. --Nooooooooo!!!!!




Date Joined Dec 2004
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   Posted 12/4/2004 1:19 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Hi Alan,

Thanks for the info. It was very helpful and I found some interesting stuff in there. There was quite a lot of stuff I found to talk about from the letters... Since Barth was so influential in the area of theology (named as one of the most influential theologians of the 20th century), I was interested to know what he stood for, and what influenced him.

I don't know if you all may find this interesting, but if anyone would like me to post some more about my findings from the letters, let me know. Researching(Otherwise, if there's no interest, I wouldn't want it to be a waste of time.Simp_Grandpa)

For example, here are two things that Barth and Brunner mentioned in their letters: Kant and Schleiermacher. (Both German-speaking too!) Schleiermacher's thing was being the "Father of Liberal Theology" (that experience seems to supercede doctrine; it seems that opened doors up to some sort of religious socialism?Flame2) and Kant's thing had to do with something like the Matrix without the red or blue pill (and God is outside of the Matrix or something?) Barth was aiming for the Objective while Brunner questioned Barth a lot about aiming for being too Objective.

I am certainly no theologian as you all can tell, and I didn't really know who Barth was until I had to find something to translate for my project that hasn't yet been translated... and the book was about $80, and not returnable, so I wanted to get some use out of it.

Greetings, VFG
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Violin for God
Luke, I am your father. --Nooooooooo!!!!!




Date Joined Dec 2004
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   Posted 12/4/2004 1:25 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Another thing, and this is just my guess, but Schleiermacher seemed to pave the way for people getting the idea of "being called" to do something, i.e. be a pastor, take on a particular job, join the worship team, etc. But the question is, is that biblical or not?
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