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borg
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   Posted 9/16/2003 6:09 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Dr. Boyd, I know that you have had much personal experience with the Jesus Seminar and debating them and taking a stand with apologetics. I currently am interested in such things, and curious as to what type of arguments would a college professor be bound to bring up in a secular class to shoot down the Gospels? Than I know you have a book published about it, but I do not have time as of now to read it, though i eagerly hope to some day; are there any articles or hardcopies of debates that you have had that I could get ahold of? Thanks for any help you can offer me. It's much appreciated.
Grace and Peace,
Borg
p.s. anyone can feel free to help me out with this if they have any experience in this matter.


"So it is a more glorious work of power to uphold a soul in a state of grace and holiness, and to carry it on till it is brought to glory, when there is so much sin remaining in the heart resisting, and Satan with all his might opposing, than it would have been to have kept manfrom falling at first, when Satan had nothing in man." Edwards

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Laika
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   Posted 9/17/2003 1:35 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Have you read this yet?
http://www.gregboyd.org/gbfront/index.asp?PageID=321



inside you the time moves and she don't fade
the ghost in you she don't fade

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Starkman
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   Posted 9/17/2003 1:06 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
DANG! I forgot about that!

Thanks, Laika!

Starkman
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borg
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   Posted 9/17/2003 3:43 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
I would also like to extend my gratitude to you for posting that. It was helpful. Thanks for posting that.
G N P
borg


"So it is a more glorious work of power to uphold a soul in a state of grace and holiness, and to carry it on till it is brought to glory, when there is so much sin remaining in the heart resisting, and Satan with all his might opposing, than it would have been to have kept manfrom falling at first, when Satan had nothing in man." Edwards

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Tiggers
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   Posted 9/17/2003 4:15 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Hey Borg,

I do recommend “Jesus Under Siege” by the Doc, that is, if you can find a copy of it. I know that you could check out a copy of it from Bethel or even order it used from Amazon or something. Now, by no means does it take the place of a more thorough response to the Seminar (e.g. Cynic Sage or Son of God by Boyd; Jesus and the Victory of God by Wright; Jesus Under Fire by Wilkens/Morland; The Real Jesus by Johnson, etc.). Anyways, you want a quick & fun read, hear it is, but please know that you get out only what you put into something (i.e., quick reads usually only go skin deep). For what it’s worth Penguin !

Warmly in Christ,
Tiggers


“The notion that God uses evils as a means to such higher goods is, … incompatible with the doctrine that he is omnipotent, and therefore does not need to use deplorable means to achieve his ends” (J.L. Mackie).

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GregBoyd
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   Posted 10/2/2003 7:17 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
There's copies of my debate with Robert Price (member of the Jesus Seminar) at UCLA you can pick up at Shepard Tapes and Books at WHC, if you're in the area.

Sorry I didn't notice this post earlier. Been crazy busy.

Doc


"The responsibility is with the chooser -- God is blameless." Plato, Republic, 10.

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