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PotOnWheel
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| Posted 12/3/2004 4:33 AM (GMT -6) |   | 1. For everything your sife says, the reply is always "Yes dear." (That way you always get the last word.  )
2. Good book:
The Sacrament of Love, $13.95 
Sacrament of Love, The [PB-SALOEV]
Paul Evdokimov
For Paul Evdokimov, the conjugal union of man and woman in marriage is an image of God in Trinity — a relationship of persons united in love, thus realizing their one nature. But, since the Fall, only Christ can truly reconcile man and woman and bring about the harmony of Eros and the person. The sacrament of marriage regulates the communion between man and wife in all its sacramental fullness. True love is fruitful, but this fruitfulness is not only expressed through children; in can also be manifested through hospitality, through service, and sometimes through a common creation.
The Sacrament of Love is a unique reflection on marriage, as well as on monastic and non-monastic celibacy. It places the relationship of man and woman within the context of the most perfect relationship of persons: the Trinitarian communion of the Divine Persons.
ISBN 0-88141-042-X
6 x 9
192 pp
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JEE
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| Posted 12/3/2004 8:26 AM (GMT -6) | | I think this question is answered when we think of the primary thing (besides childbearing) that differentiates a marriage from a very close friendship. As you well note, heaven will be an eternal growth in love between all the redeemed and with the Trinity, and so amazingly close, loving friendship will be the rule, and not the exception, in heaven, but we will not need sexual intercourse to express our love one for another.
That said, if both we and our spouses make it to heaven, I see no scriptural or logical reason to think that we won't know each other or that we won't still enjoy a very special relationship with our former spouse (and other relatives who finish the race, too).
John (A very happily married man, too).
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JEE
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1Heart
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justvisiting
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| Posted 12/15/2004 4:52 PM (GMT -6) | | Think about the woman who was married to her husband 20+ years and then he left her for another woman who he then married and stayed with. Or how about the woman married to a man who then announced he was gay and married his gay lover. Or the man whose wife divorced him and married someone else, who she later divorced and married someone else.
I think there are people having gone through things like that that are probably thankful there is no marriage in Heaven. What would happen in that first scenario? Would the man be married to the 1st or 2nd wife, who was initially the "other woman?" Or would he be married to both? Neither of those seems to be a "perfect" situation and we know that Heaven will be perfect. Both of those situations would be sure to have jealousies, tension, insecurities, and much tears... none of which will exist in heaven.
I believe God has a higher plan and His ways are not fully understanable by us.
And what of those persons who longed to be married but never experienced it on earth, but yet they struggled with that and envied those who were married, feeling left out and sad over their situation? Heaven, if marriage is a reality there, would seem to be a repeat of that earthly sorrow for the single person who longed for marriage on earth.
It seems that marriage in heaven would only be ideal for those persons with good marriages, and it would exclude many people and would really be no different than earth for those persons. | | Back to Top | | |
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Tigress
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| Posted 12/16/2004 7:43 AM (GMT -6) | | quote:
Originally posted by justvisiting
Think about the woman who was married to her husband 20+ years and then he left her for another woman who he then married and stayed with. Or how about the woman married to a man who then announced he was gay and married his gay lover. Or the man whose wife divorced him and married someone else, who she later divorced and married someone else.
I think there are people having gone through things like that that are probably thankful there is no marriage in Heaven. What would happen in that first scenario? Would the man be married to the 1st or 2nd wife, who was initially the "other woman?" Or would he be married to both? Neither of those seems to be a "perfect" situation and we know that Heaven will be perfect. Both of those situations would be sure to have jealousies, tension, insecurities, and much tears... none of which will exist in heaven.
I believe God has a higher plan and His ways are not fully understanable by us.
And what of those persons who longed to be married but never experienced it on earth, but yet they struggled with that and envied those who were married, feeling left out and sad over their situation? Heaven, if marriage is a reality there, would seem to be a repeat of that earthly sorrow for the single person who longed for marriage on earth.
It seems that marriage in heaven would only be ideal for those persons with good marriages, and it would exclude many people and would really be no different than earth for those persons.
What about those of us who've never experienced sexual intercourse before and who really, really want to? What if we don't end up getting married on earth? I would regret that so much! Everyone always says, "Oh, in heaven you won't care about that anymore. Sex isn't as great as whatever God has for us in heaven so you'll be even happier there even though you never got to experience sex." I'd still think I really missed out on something.
Tigress 
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Matthew Timothy Short
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| Posted 12/17/2004 12:36 AM (GMT -6) | | Mat 22:2, 4, 9 The kingdom of heaven is like unto a certain king, which made a marriage for his son . . . Again, he sent forth other servants, saying, Tell them which are bidden, Behold, I have prepared my dinner: my oxen and [my] fatlings [are] killed, and all things [are] ready: come unto the marriage . . . Go ye therefore into the highways, and as many as ye shall find, bid to the marriage.
Mat 25:10 And while they went to buy, the bridegroom came; and they that were ready went in with him to the marriage: and the door was shut.
Rev 19:7 Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and his wife hath made herself ready.
Rev 19:9 And he saith unto me, Write, Blessed [are] they which are called unto the marriage supper of the Lamb. And he saith unto me, These are the true sayings of God.
Will there be pudding 
Imagination projects unreal images out of the mind and seeks to attach reality to them. Faith creates nothing; it simply reckons upon that which is already there. | | Back to Top | | |
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Scott
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| Posted 1/19/2005 11:56 AM (GMT -6) | | Part of the reason that we are not given in marraige
while in heaven is due to the fact that we do not
have physical bodies.
At the resurection/rapture of the Church, we receive
bodies like that of Jesus.
Now concerning our stay in Heaven, we read at the
end of revelation that there is a new Heaven and
a New Earth. Then we read that New Jerusalem
the bride of Christ comes down from Heaven to
the New Earth. Which is where we will then spend
eternity with the Lord there as our King. It is at
this point that old things are passed away, and
all things are become new. It is at this point that
He will wipe away all our tears.
It is possible, that in that New Earth, God will partner
us up with spouses. As man was created in the image
and likeness of God, and it is not good that man should
be alone. God's intention for man is that man should be
a picture of Himself. These things being the case, it is
quite possible that God will pair each man with a woman.
that this union, would then be the perfect picture of the
Union of the Trinity.
However, while in heaven, there will be no marriages.
Consider also, that in the new heaven and new earth
which we look forward to, that the things of the old
heaven and old earth will be done away. They will
not have power because the vows will in affect have
been fulfilled. The vow of matrimony is till death we
do part. Thus, whether we sleep, or are transformed
in the rapture, that vow is fulfilled as in the case of the
transformation, we become dead to this earth.
God, having created the Heavens and the Earth intends
to redeam them after the Millenial reign of Christ. I
think it contrary to God's plan of redemption, that He
would do away with the union between man and woman
which He Himself created. I think it more likely, that
when He redeems the Heaven and the Earth, He will
aslo redeem the Union between Man and Woman.
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