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Matthew Timothy Short
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| Posted 12/4/2004 5:44 PM (GMT -6) |   | | http://www.goodnewsaboutgod.com/studies/millennium2.htm | | Back to Top | | |
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PotOnWheel
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| Posted 12/5/2004 1:20 AM (GMT -6) | | A better question is whether the Kingdom is something only "then" or "now" also.
Some wonderful quotes: http://www2.bc.edu/~morrilb/Icon.html
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Gennadios Limouris says:
The icon, then, is the Christ, the God who became a face. Then it is also the faces of all the friends of God who are our friends and who insist on including us in their circle. And already, the icon represents the Kingdom of God; anticipating the Kingdom of God, starting from the one place where we see this already anticipated: here on earth in the human face! The Kingdom of God is anticipated, either starting from the beauty of the world, though this is an ambiguous beauty, or starting from certain faces, certain old faces, fashioned by a long life, faces which have not been plunged into resentment or bitterness or the fear of death, faces of those who do not flinch as they approach death, faces that know precisely where they are, and have found again the mind of a child.(34)
The Church must fundamentally be an icon of the resurrection before the world.
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JEE
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| Posted 12/5/2004 2:49 AM (GMT -6) | | quote:
Originally posted by Tim
http://www.goodnewsaboutgod.com/studies/millennium2.htm
Mark 9:1 And Jesus was saying to them, "Truly I say to you, there are some of those who are standing here who will not taste death until they see the kingdom of God after it has come with power."
2 ¶ Six days later, Jesus took with Him Peter and James and John, and brought them up on a high mountain by themselves. And He was transfigured before them;
3 and His garments became radiant and exceedingly white, as no launderer on earth can whiten them.
Rev 21:3 And I heard a loud voice from the throne, saying, "Behold, the tabernacle of God is among men, and He will dwell among them, and they shall be His people, and God Himself will be among them,
2 Cor 6:16 Or what agreement has the temple of God with idols? For we are the temple of the living God; just as God said, "I WILL DWELL IN THEM AND WALK AMONG THEM; AND I WILL BE THEIR GOD, AND THEY SHALL BE MY PEOPLE."
1 Cor 3:16 ¶ Do you not know that you are a temple of God and {that} the Spirit of God dwells in you?
John 1:14 ¶ And the Word became flesh, and dwelt (tabernacled) among us, and we saw His glory, glory as of the only begotten from the Father, full of grace and truth.
Eph. 2:18 for through Him we both have our access in one Spirit to the Father.
19 So then you are no longer strangers and aliens, but you are fellow citizens with the saints, and are of God's household,
20 having been built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Christ Jesus Himself being the corner {stone,}
21 in whom the whole building, being fitted together, is growing into a holy temple in the Lord,
22 in whom you also are being built together into a dwelling of God in the Spirit.
Rom 14:17 for the kingdom of God is not eating and drinking, but righteousness and peace and joy in the Holy Spirit.
Luke 9:2 And He sent them out to proclaim the kingdom of God and to perform healing.
Luke 10:9 and heal those in it who are sick, and say to them, 'The kingdom of God has come near to you.'
10 "But whatever city you enter and they do not receive you, go out into its streets and say,
11 'Even the dust of your city which clings to our feet we wipe off {in protest} against you; yet be sure of this, that the kingdom of God has come near.'
Luke 11:2 And He said to them, "When you pray, say: 'Father, hallowed be Your name. Your kingdom come.
Luke 11:20 "But if I cast out demons by the finger of God, then the kingdom of God has come upon you.
Luke 12:32 "Do not be afraid, little flock, for your Father has chosen gladly to give you the kingdom.
1 Cor 6:9 ¶ Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals,
10 nor thieves, nor {the} covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, will inherit the kingdom of God.
Matt 3:2 "Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand."
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Matthew Timothy Short
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| Posted 12/5/2004 3:13 AM (GMT -6) | | Will the Millennium be Spent in Heaven or on Earth, or will there be any human beings living on the earth during the Millennium?
That is the question or pudding is fine 
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Matthew Timothy Short
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| Posted 12/5/2004 3:17 PM (GMT -6) | |
The Thousand Years
Then I saw an angel come down from heaven with the key to the bottomless pit and a heavy chain in his hand. 2 He seized the dragon-that old serpent, the Devil, Satan-and bound him in chains for a thousand years. 3 The angel threw him into the bottomless pit, which he then shut and locked so Satan could not deceive the nations anymore until the thousand years were finished. Afterward he would be released again for a little while.
4 Then I saw thrones, and the people sitting on them had been given the authority to judge. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for their testimony about Jesus, for proclaiming the word of God. And I saw the souls of those who had not worshiped the beast or his statue, nor accepted his mark on their forehead or their hands. They came to life again, and they reigned with Christ for a thousand years. 5 This is the first resurrection. (The rest of the dead did not come back to life until the thousand years had ended.) 6 Blessed and holy are those who share in the first resurrection. For them the second death holds no power, but they will be priests of God and of Christ and will reign with him a thousand years.
The Defeat of Satan
7 When the thousand years end, Satan will be let out of his prison. 8 He will go out to deceive the nations from every corner of the earth, which are called Gog and Magog. He will gather them together for battle-a mighty host, as numberless as sand along the shore. 9 And I saw them as they went up on the broad plain of the earth and surrounded God's people and the beloved city. But fire from heaven came down on the attacking armies and consumed them.
10 Then the Devil, who betrayed them, was thrown into the lake of fire that burns with sulfur, joining the beast and the false prophet. There they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.
The Final Judgment
11 And I saw a great white throne, and I saw the one who was sitting on it. The earth and sky fled from his presence, but they found no place to hide. 12 I saw the dead, both great and small, standing before God's throne. And the books were opened, including the Book of Life. And the dead were judged according to the things written in the books, according to what they had done. 13 The sea gave up the dead in it, and death and the grave* gave up the dead in them. They were all judged according to their deeds. 14 And death and the grave were thrown into the lake of fire. This is the second death-the lake of fire. 15 And anyone whose name was not found recorded in the Book of Life was thrown into the lake of fire.
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Matthew Timothy Short
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| Posted 12/5/2004 3:26 PM (GMT -6) | | CONCLUSION:
The Biblical evidence is compelling that the earth will be totally desolate during the millennium and will be inhabited ONLY by Satan and his evil angels.
The Millennium will take place ONLY in heaven (except for Satan and his evil angels) for the following reasons:
1) The earth will be in utter desolation ("chaos and vacant") during the millennium
2) Only Satan and his evil angels will be on earth during the millennium, "chained" by circumstances
3) Jesus will take the righteous to heaven during the millennium and ALL the wicked will be dead. The resurrection of the wicked occurs AFTER the millennium.
4) The earth MUST rest for 1,000 years because it hasn't rested every seventh year since Creation.
5) Jesus said repeatedly, "My kingdom is NOT of this world."
6) Jesus commanded us NOT to look for Him anywhere on this earth. Those would be false "Christs."
7) When Jesus comes, the righteous will be "caught up to meet Him in the air" then,
8) Jesus will take us to where He is NOW - - - heaven! For the Millennium!
Taken from: http://www.goodnewsaboutgod.com/studies/millennium2.htm
Which is the view I hope to discuss or I will just eat my pudding alone?
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| Posted 12/6/2004 7:11 AM (GMT -6) | | Rev. 5:10
"Thou dost also make them a kingdom and a priesthood for our God, And they shall be reigning on oh the earth."
Rev. 19:15
"And out of His mouth a sharp blade is issuing, that with it He should be smiting the nations. And He will be sheparding them with an iron club."
Who will Israel and Christ reign over if, as you say, no one is on the earth?
All of the promises made to Israel deal with the promised land here on earth. The prophets are full of Israel's gathering and restoration. It will be at this time that Israel will take its rightful place as God's kingdom of priests. They will then rule over the very nations that oppressed them (Isaiah 14:1-3, Joel 3, Dan. 2:44). The problem is that we try to spiritualise the book of Revelations so that it fits us, the gentiles, when much of it does not pertain to us, but to Israel and the promises made to the fathers and to the people of Israel through the prophets. When lining up Revelations with the light given us by the old testament prophets concerning the nation of Israel, many of it's confusing symbolism becomes more clear.
Those who are members of the bride will live and reign with Christ on earth (Rev. 5:10, 20:4,5). Those of us who are members of the body of Christ will live and reign in the heavenlies (Eph. 2:3, Col. 3:1-4, 1 Cor. 6:3).
Some will spend the millennium on the earth and others will spend the millennium in the heavenlies, both will enjoy life in Christ.
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