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|  Tom Registered Member

Date Joined Jul 2001 Total Posts : 10353 | Posted 4/24/2005 2:07 PM (GMT -6) |   | |
Hey John (JEE)!
How you like this summary of Moral Gov’t Theology by the Christian Research Center: http://www.iclnet.org/pub/resources/text/cri/cri-jrnl/crj0184a.txt ?
Check it out:
[Moral government theology (MGT), rooted in the philosophical definition of freedom as the "power of contrary choice," denies the fundamental Christian doctrines of God's perfection in knowledge, goodness, and power; original sin; human moral inability; the substitutionary satisfaction of God's justice in Christ's atoning death; redemption; and justification by the crediting of Christ's righteousness to believers by grace through faith apart from works. As documented in this article, these denials are unbiblical and are so serious as to warrant classifying MGT as non-Christian.]
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  |  selah Registered Member

Date Joined Oct 2001 Total Posts : 1210 | Posted 4/25/2005 5:25 AM (GMT -6) |   | Hey John,
Will you please explain MGT (its origin and basic suppositions) and why you hold it?
Thanks.
love selah
P.S. I did read the link TGB posted, still, it's hard to believe you'd agree with the following: As Olson puts it, "_the will determines the nature or character, rather than the nature the will_" (emphasis added).[22] Should God ever choose to make His character other than wise and holy and perfect -- and no "internal force of nature" can prevent His doing so -- then of course that wise and holy and perfect character will no longer limit what He wills; a different sort of character will do so. To put it simply, we have no _assurance_ that God will not decide tomorrow to become the Devil.
well, what do I know?  1 Corinthians 2:1-5 When I came to you, brothers, I did not come with eloquence or superior wisdom as I proclaimed to you the testimony about God. 2 For I resolved to know nothing while I was with you except Jesus Christ and him crucified. 3 I came to you in weakness and fear, and with much trembling. 4 My message and my preaching were not with wise and persuasive words, but with a demonstration of the Spirit’s power, 5 so that your faith might not rest on men’s wisdom, but on God’s power. | | Back to Top | | |
 |  JEE Registered Member
 Date Joined Jul 2004 Total Posts : 1466 | Posted 4/25/2005 10:19 AM (GMT -6) |   |
Selah said...Hey John, Will you please explain MGT (its origin and basic suppositions) and why you hold it? Thanks. love selah P.S. I did read the link TGB posted, still, it's hard to believe you'd agree with the following: As Olson puts it, "_the will determines the nature or character, rather than the nature the will_" (emphasis added).[22] Should God ever choose to make His character other than wise and holy and perfect -- and no "internal force of nature" can prevent His doing so -- then of course that wise and holy and perfect character will no longer limit what He wills; a different sort of character will do so. To put it simply, we have no _assurance_ that God will not decide tomorrow to become the Devil. well, what do I know?
Hi Selah,
The part you have bolded are not Olson's words, but are the opinion of the (very negative) commentor.
MGT (Moral Government Theology) derives from the New England Theology (or New School Divinity) that arose in response to Calvinism and Universalism in early American history. The most famous propagator of MGT was noted revivalist Charles Grandison Finney. Though Finney did not teach what is now known of as Open Theism, many MGT advocates in the past century have also embraced what is now known as the Open View, dating back to the 1940s and 50s, long before the term "Open Theism" even became known.
As I have tried to state as plainly as I could in another thread RE: God's character, we can have total confidence, based on what we know of God's faithfulness, that He will NEVER decide to become the Devil. (Where's the rolleyes icon when you need it, anyway? )
Blessings,
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