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a_theist
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Date Joined Dec 2002
Total Posts : 286
| Posted 10/16/2003 12:09 PM (GMT -6) |   | A "review" of Doc's new book:
Why Bad Things Happen to Well-Intentioned Authors, October 7, 2003
Reviewer: A reader from El Cajon, CA United States
Disappointing. More was expected from one who claims to be a pastor, theologian and Bible expert.
If you're looking for a genuine Evangelical, fully Biblical perspective on suffering, try Luther, Wesley, Arminius, Charles Stanley, John MacArthur, Chuck Swindoll, Stuart Briscoe, Bill Bright, C.S.Lewis (Problem of Pain), David Jeremiah (Bend in the Road from a cancer survivor), O.S. Hawkins, Joni Erickson Tada (quadriplegic), Henry Morris (Commentary on Job).
You might even do equally well with Rabbi Harold Kushner's books on 'Why bad things happen to good people'. At least the Rabbi doesn't make claim to be a Bible scholar or an Evangelical.
Unfortunately those reading this imbalanced, aberrant view of The God of Suffering (as found most supremely in Jesus Himself) will be led outside the Bible via a quasi-processistic philosophy (see author's foundational book TRINITY & PROCESS and his controversial GOD OF THE (what's finitely) POSSIBLE) to a limited, fallible, finite deity unable/unwilling based on self-imposed restrictions to grapple with what happens in his fallen world.
This author's god doesn't have exhaustively definitive divine foreknowledge of all free futures nor omnipresent, supremely adequate control over a world dominated by 'quantum mechanics theory' and 'uncertainty principle', so what can this philosophic approach do to help the sufferer come to grips as to what a Good God, Who sees all evil in advance before it is freely decided, can do about their plight???
One star is overly generous, although there are a few arguments and illustrations that are closer to Scripture than many others.
Chaff outweighs the wheat. More steak sauce than meat.
"The 'sovereignty' of God is not, I suggest, a very biblical idea, especially if one has a low opinion of the respect of sovereigns for the freedom of their subjects."
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honorman
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| Posted 10/16/2003 12:20 PM (GMT -6) | | | The sad thing is he is very ignorant of open theism. He speaks in generalities in order not to make a fool of himself. | | Back to Top | | |
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Tiggers
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Total Posts : 219
| Posted 10/17/2003 9:35 AM (GMT -6) | | Ok, this has bugged me for some time now, you see, when you see any open theist’s book on amazon.com you will have most likely around 3 & ½ stars due to pretty much one person. This one person goes by the name james scott & a reader from El Cajon, CA United States, and almost all reviews on the open theist’s books have about 1-7 responses for each book (I think it’s to get the stars down…he’s on a witch hunt, I think) from the same guy. Aughhhhhh…the reviews don’t even discus the book only his charge of heresy towards the theology. The reason this frustrates me is due to 1) most likely not reading the book, 2) spamming on amazon.com his own theological bent 3) making charges of heresy & 4) people who don’t know enough about the whole open theism debate will believe his  !!!!
Warmly in Christ,
Tiggers
PS
I’m surprised no ones complained to amazon about his spamming on amazon’s site!
PSS
Dag, glad that's off my chest...sheesh!
“The notion that God uses evils as a means to such higher goods is, … incompatible with the doctrine that he is omnipotent, and therefore does not need to use deplorable means to achieve his ends” (J.L. Mackie). | | Back to Top | | |
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Tigress
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Total Posts : 1252
| Posted 10/17/2003 9:52 AM (GMT -6) | | quote:
Originally posted by Tiggers
Ok, this has bugged me for some time now, you see, when you see any open theist’s book on amazon.com you will have most likely around 3 & ½ stars due to pretty much one person. This one person goes by the name james scott & a reader from El Cajon, CA United States, and almost all reviews on the open theist’s books have about 1-7 responses for each book (I think it’s to get the stars down…he’s on a witch hunt, I think) from the same guy. Aughhhhhh…the reviews don’t even discus the book only his charge of heresy towards the theology. The reason this frustrates me is due to 1) most likely not reading the book, 2) spamming on amazon.com his own theological bent 3) making charges of heresy & 4) people who don’t know enough about the whole open theism debate will believe his !!!!
Warmly in Christ,
Tiggers
PS
I’m surprised no ones complained to amazon about his spamming on amazon’s site!
PSS
Dag, glad that's off my chest...sheesh!
Tiggers,
Three questions: 1. Are you a guy or a girl?
2. If a guy, are ya married?
3. Why did you choose the name Tiggers?
I chose Tigress because I love Tigers and I can be pretty ferocious at times!
Tigress 
"Name a shrub after me. Preferably one that's prickly and difficult to eradicate."
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DLW
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| Posted 10/17/2003 10:32 AM (GMT -6) | | | | |
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Tiggers
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Date Joined Jul 2001
Total Posts : 219
| Posted 10/17/2003 11:03 AM (GMT -6) | | quote:
Tiggers,
Three questions: 1. Are you a guy or a girl?
2. If a guy, are ya married?
3. Why did you choose the name Tiggers?
I chose Tigress because I love Tigers and I can be pretty ferocious at times!
Hey Tigress,
You’re too funny, and I’m sure I’m not alone in thinking that. You see, often there is a great deal of tension within this board, and you seem to have the words to bring smiles to people’s faces, soooo…thanks for sharing the gift, Tigress!
1. Are you a guy or a girl?
• Hmmmm, I guess I’ll have to let you be the judge of that one.
2. Are you married?
• Yes, humbly & happily!
3. Why did you choose Tiggers?
• Ok, as a kid, I loved Winnie the Pooh books, and my favorite character was Tigger…Now, 2nd phase of the story, I was chilllll’n with my son, and we had just recently (i.e., way back when C.V. was in it’s early stages) read a Winnie the Pooh book, and there I was having to pick a name as a C.V. user…Ok, 3rd phase of the story, so I was thinking of all the cool names I could, and the one I really liked was already taken by someone on another board (the name was ApologeticJedi…I didn’t read much from this person…I just liked the pseudonym). Anyways, 4th phase of the story, in reading the C.V. board for some time before joining (and I had always admired so many on the board…still do), but one person’s demeanor, especially on this board, always seemed to truly be looking for truth, and honestly grappling with the questions on both sides of the Open Theism position. Well, to make this long, overly drawn out, should have been a simple answer story to a close…well……I guess, the name tiggers to me, means…trying to be loving, type B in personality, a little scatterbrained, but outgoing, trying her/his hardest to forgive…and oh, just frigg’n tying to be happy, darn it  !
Warmly in Christ,
Tiggers
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Tigress
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