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pia†desideria
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| Posted 8/7/2001 5:19 AM (GMT -6) |   | Sorry. I need reminding. What good are the “omni” attributes? Are “omni” statements helpful ways to describe God anymore? pia
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Mephi2K
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| Posted 8/7/2001 5:22 AM (GMT -6) | | God is "OMNI-X" where it's X is always ill-defined and endlessly debated and "OMNI-X" dies the death of a thousand qualifications. Yay, theology.
Yawn! Hey, I'm sleepy now! To bed.
Love God. Love People. Love Truth. Dedicate your all to that which you love.
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GregBoyd
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| Posted 8/7/2001 5:36 AM (GMT -6) | | "Omni" just means "all," so your question becomes, is God "All anything any more." And my answer is, I CERTAINLY HOPE SO. If God is perfect, he must be ALL in ALL ways one can be perfect. All-good, for example (Mephi????? ).
The problem as I see Pia, is not with the "God is all x" idea itself, but with the way it has been usually worked out in the classical philosophical tradition. I believe we can, and have, made progress on this, however, by continually questioning our assumptions about what the "all" entails in the light of the biblical witness.
To the "ALL-WISE" and "ALL-GOOD" and "ALL-MIGHTY" and "ALL-LOVING" God be glory, honor and dominion (note the threeness!).
Amen, Amen and Amen. 
Doc
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writerdad
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trosie
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| Posted 8/7/2001 9:01 PM (GMT -6) | | Doc:"" God be glory, honor and dominion (note the threeness!).
Amen, Amen and Amen."
Hey, isn't that for the Threefold Structure of Reality thread!
Writerdad"God is omni I need..."
AMEN!
trosie
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PotOnWheel
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| Posted 8/8/2001 11:25 AM (GMT -6) | | Please don't hold me to this, as my brain is on vacation...with the rest of me where the temp and humidity are less than they are in Chicago!!!
I'm going to throw on the table the idea that maybe the OMNIs belong to the category of God's ESSENCE of God (Doc's ALL-WISE, ALL-GOOD, ALL-MIGHTY" and ALL-LOVING look to me to fit.) but caution flags should go up when they are applied to God's ENERGIES. Road-testing this for a moment: one would assume that "ALL-KNOWING" would need to be tweaked to be true, as it is exercised within history; ALL-POWERFUL would conform to what the Bible teaches about Christ's condescension; etc. Personally, I find it very interesting reading a good church historian who gives commentary on how that old "classical philosophical tradition" really and to be wrestled with to adapt some of its terms and usurp some of its catagories--recrafted--to say what through the Bible and the witness of the Spirit HAD to be said. the ended up with a lot of "BEYONDs" as the equivalent of our yellow road signs to try warning others against too careless a use of the ALLs.
How's this hold up?
PotOnWheel
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