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Tom
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| Posted 7/31/2001 6:35 AM (GMT -6) |   | Hi friends-
Question: Is suicide a sin for which there is no forgiveness? I mean, is it a one-way ticket to hell?
Just wondering,
Tom
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Cibertus
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| Posted 7/31/2001 8:42 AM (GMT -6) | | Don't do it Tom!
We all love you!! And think you're cool.
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Tom
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| Posted 7/31/2001 9:08 AM (GMT -6) | | quote:
Don't do it Tom! We all love you!! And think you're cool.
Cibertus
And there are people who believe the gifts of the Spirit aren't active today?
Tom
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Modes of Thought
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| Posted 7/31/2001 10:40 AM (GMT -6) | | There is only one sin that is beyond forgiveness. Confusing God and Satan. One cannot love God if one thinks God is Satan or Satan is God. The church has suggested that suicide is the ultimate rebellion against the creator and thereby unforgivable, but this assumes that suicide is a function of pride run to its limit. This discounts the complexity of depression and gives the impression that the person who commits suicide saw the various options. Rather, it is more often the case that the person who commits suicide could not see any live options. No reason to live at all. This all gets very complex quickly when we start to consider all the factors involved, but it is a gross simplification to simply say the person is damned to hell for their rebellion against God as creator. On the other hand, I would never tell a person who is contemplating suicide that they will not go to hell because of it (they do often ask), for purely pragmatic reasons.
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BreathOFdreams
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| Posted 8/20/2001 7:28 AM (GMT -6) | | quote:
Hi friends-
Question: Is suicide a sin for which there is no forgiveness? I mean, is it a one-way ticket to hell?
Just wondering,
Tom
"The will to prepare to win is greater than the will to win." Bobby Knight
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BreathOFdreams
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| Posted 8/20/2001 7:35 AM (GMT -6) | | Apologies for the blank post. This sin issue seems perplexing. I don't know the Bible enough to base my answer on it, but to me, suicide seems like a viable option to escape perceived horrors, pains, atrocities and situations that this world dishes out. I suppose you would have to take suicide in context...for instance, killing oneself after just murdering others may be considered sinful, whereas killing oneself in the throes of a deadly disease may not be sinful. It seems to me that looking at the profile of the heart, mind and soul at the moment of suicide (which only God and the committing person would know) would determine if it's sin or not sin. I would like to think of it as not sin, rather a clause in the Freewill Act ;-) . Hmmm, I wonder if animals have the ability to commit suicide...?
"Oh great creator of being, grant us one more hour to perform our art and to perfect our lives".
Edited by - BreathOFdreams on 08/20/2001 12:37:11 PM | | Back to Top | | |
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