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crkdopenskull
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| Posted 9/13/2001 12:46 PM (GMT -6) |   | If we have already discussed this, I would love to be directed to the thread. Otherwise, I am wondering, are we to believe that dreams SHOULD be interpreted and have meaning?
Does God speak to us through dreams still? If so, which ones are from Him, and which ones aren't?
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Triskal
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| Posted 9/13/2001 5:19 PM (GMT -6) | | I'm not sure what the correct answer to that question would be. What I do know is that one of the main reasons for certain dreams comes from unfulfilled desires. Another would be something that has really been on your mind a lot. With this information we can then use dreams to determine what we may be placing ahead of God in our lives.
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crkdopenskull
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| Posted 9/14/2001 4:14 PM (GMT -6) | | Here it is:
A few months ago I had a dream that there would be war. In the dream I picked up the phone to reach my kids and family and the phone was dead. A man came on the line and said "You can't talk to them, we have them. Nobody can use the phone lines except the government." a feeling of helplessness filled me, it was one of the scariest dreams I ever had.
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TCTBU
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| Posted 9/14/2001 4:31 PM (GMT -6) | | This has been a question that has also been on my mind for a few months. However, I have not had any such situation like crkdopenskull, but rather I have been wondering to whom God is able to give dreams. Or if God does give dreams at all...? If it takes away some of our freedom to do so or not? I have wondered b/c I have often prayed that perhaps God would be able to affect someone who is not a Christian by giving them a dream. Of what content, I am not sure, nor am I sure if it is plausible. I have prayed this prayer in situations where I have no way of coming in contact w/ a certain person and yet I have met them and I sincerely want them to know the reality of Christ.
I am confused. And I wonder if there is some reason God doesn't, perhaps b/c of a breach of freedom or some other possibility. And yet if that is not the case, why He supposedly does not "give dreams" more often.
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MrIndifference
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| Posted 9/14/2001 6:41 PM (GMT -6) | | Personally, I believe that God can and still gives dreams to people. I truly believe that He has given me dreams. It wasn't so much a case of Him telling me what He was going to do, but instead telling me what He wanted me to do. From that point on, it was up to me as to whether or not I chose to acknowledge the dream and follow through with what He asked of me.
I believe that many are not willing to acknowledge that God actively works in a spiritual way in this time and place. Many think that tongues, prophecies, dreams, visions, etc. are things of the past. They don't even believe that God speaks to people any way other than strictly from His word. If we are not willing to believe that there is truth to this and let him speak to us, then I believe that He will respect that and not deal with you on that level. Our free will works on many different levels.
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faith
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| Posted 9/14/2001 7:12 PM (GMT -6) | | Every now and then, not real often but enough, I have really strange dreams about spiritual things. I don't really talk about them too much, I guess. In the last one, I dreamed I was in my bed in my exact room just about to sleep, when I realized I hadn't shut the blinds. I went to the window to close them and (oddly) saw my neighbor watching me and was gripped with fear. (It wasn't really my neighbor I was afraid of) I don't even know how to describe the feeling. I got back into bed and started to pray against it (I've had dreams like that before) and the strangest part was that I felt so frozen and sluggish that I was afraid I wasn't going to win. (I know this sounds really weird. I'm not a sci-fi reader or anything! I don't even watch tv.) Anyway, literally, the covers of my bed began to rise and things, shapes, began to fly out from under them and leave the room and I woke up, not scared anymore, and went to sleep. Hmmm. How's that for weird dreams? And honestly, I don't really know what to make of them, either. That was the most recent weird one I've had. I don't know what to call them, maybe a 'warfare' dream? I've had them since I was just a girl but have never known if anyone else has experienced anything similar. I've often wondered why I have them. Has anyone else experienced that?
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crkdopenskull
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| Posted 9/15/2001 1:54 AM (GMT -6) | | I have had similar dreams Faith. In fact, from the time I was little up until about 5 years ago I have had one particular dream over and over. This dream was evil in nature. My bed shook, it was lifted up off the ground, I was tickled and frozen in place. Sounds weird now, but back then, I got so used to it that I started to work on ways to get out of it (and/or to test if it was real). One thing I tried was to wake up during it...believe it or not, I was able to, while the bed was still shaking. How freaky is that? Finally I began to overcome the dream (after practice) by saying Jesus' name over and over and over. I also play praise and worship music while I sleep.
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TCTBU
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| Posted 9/15/2001 1:36 PM (GMT -6) | | Can I assume that the general consensus so far has been that it does NOT take away from our free will in order for God to give us dreams? I have been trying to think of ways that it would, just to be sure, but I know so little about the "science of dreams" that I'm sure most thoughts wouldn't amount to much, for I have nothing to back them up.
But I was thinking, if giving dreams does not take away from free will, then that definately means Satan could probably give us dreams also. You think so? The dream that crkdopenskull described sounded more to me like a dream from Satan, rather than from God. (If it was from "anyone" at all.) I guess the main reason for me thinking that was how the mentioning of Jesus' name and playing praise or worship music seemed to overcome the dream. It's just a thought.
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MrIndifference
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| Posted 9/15/2001 8:02 PM (GMT -6) | | I would have to say that you are correct. At least from my point of view. Alot of dreams are satanic attacks. On the topic of whether dreams given by God removing free will, I would say that if anything, they may narrow the focus, but free will is still there. All the references of dreams in the bible that I can recall off hand do this. Whether the dream gives spacific direction, or shows what God has planned or things that are about to happen, I don't see him removing the human element from the circumstances, but instead presenting a question and asking us what we are going to do with the info we are given.
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TCTBU
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| Posted 9/16/2001 9:38 AM (GMT -6) | | Ok, so here's my next question. To whom does God give dreams? Anyone He chooses? Or is it just the Christian? Or does he give dreams to both, Christian and non-Christain alike?
Where I'm going with this, is that I'm wondering whether it's plausible to ask God to give a person a dream in order to spur that person into thinking about eternity and salvation, etc.? Or is there some other element involved?
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MrIndifference
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| Posted 9/16/2001 2:27 PM (GMT -6) | | I would say anyone he chooses. I met a woman who was from somewhere in africa. She was in a place where christ was not preached at all. Through her dreams, Christ made Himself known to her. A couple years later, she came to the US, and finally learned who it was that appeared in her dreams. So, through her dreams she came to know Christ.
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Ana
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| Posted 9/18/2001 10:03 AM (GMT -6) | | I was in 9th grade when Clinton was first elected. Around the time of his first inaugration (January 1993) I had an interesting dream.
One part of it:
I was flying (not in an airplane) over the strait of Gilbralter (from Morocco to Spain) I landed on the rock of Gilbralter. I, along with several others, seemed to be reporters. We were taking down notes as Clinton was speaking to us. We were standing near a very large pit (you couldn’t see the bottom) and it looked sort of animated, with ghosts coming out of it. Clinton explained that this (the pit) was were he was going to throw “them.” As reporters, we weren’t scared. It didn’t seem to be an out of the ordinary thing at all. We just took notes.
Last year, I was reading about the law which this country has (which I thing Clinton put in place in the last 10 years) that the U.S. cannot asassinate heads of state. However, there was speculation that Clinton/U.S. has England do this. And the place known for the killings is the rock of Gilbralter.
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Washin9ton Apple
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| Posted 9/23/2001 11:36 AM (GMT -6) | | on the topic of dreams being given to non charistians.
i once heard a missionary tell a story where a lady in china was given a dream 7 nights in a row. in the dream she was told to go to a city that was seven days away to recieve some sort of thing called the bible. i guess she was a seeker because she made that trip. on arriving at the city she made her way to the house which was specificlly given to her in the dream. in that house was a missionary giving a bible study. she entered the house and told her story. the strange thing was that the missionary said that the house they were in was the second house because the first house was being spyed on by the chinese authorities. they had switched houses at the last moment. in the end the lady recieved her bible and became a christian.
so, you tell me. does God give dreams to non-believers? the pharoh recieved a dream and needed joseph to reveal the meaning. nebechanezer had daniel tell him of his dreams. so, i think scripture points out that yes, He does.
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TCTBU
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| Posted 9/23/2001 12:29 PM (GMT -6) | | Ok, then it must be plausible to ask God to give someone a dream. Not b/c you want to get out of doing something yourself, but rather, b/c the only thing you can do is pray.
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| Posted 9/23/2001 6:49 PM (GMT -6) | | Great thread. I think most dreams are the result of the brain filtering, sorting, and evaluating the events of our days. They reflect our desires, our fears, and our reasonings about them.
I have found that an ordinary dream will fade by lunch time or even before if not recorded. However those which originate on the spiritual plain are rarely forgotten, whether begotten by our Lord or the enemy.
Once when my husband was out of town for the weekend I felt like I was under a spiritual attack. Friday night my son broke his arm and I had to drive him to the emergency room in a blizzard. Saturday night the same storm still raged and I had to drive my other son through it to the emergency room because he had cut his thumb badly.
My husband was at a rustic cabin without a phone. I asked God to give him a dream to tell him that I was under attack so that he would pray for me.
The first thing my husand said when he walked in the door Monday was, "I had a dream with you and the kids in it last night. You were being attacked. I was scared for you, and have been praying for you."
(This from a guy who during the first years of our marriage swore he didn't even have dreams!)
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| Posted 10/24/2001 12:19 PM (GMT -6) | | quote:
I was in 9th grade when Clinton was first elected. Around the time of his first inaugration (January 1993) I had an interesting dream.
One part of it:
I was flying (not in an airplane) over the strait of Gilbralter (from Morocco to Spain) I landed on the rock of Gilbralter. I, along with several others, seemed to be reporters. We were taking down notes as Clinton was speaking to us. We were standing near a very large pit (you couldn’t see the bottom) and it looked sort of animated, with ghosts coming out of it. Clinton explained that this (the pit) was were he was going to throw “them.” As reporters, we weren’t scared. It didn’t seem to be an out of the ordinary thing at all. We just took notes.
Last year, I was reading about the law which this country has (which I thing Clinton put in place in the last 10 years) that the U.S. cannot asassinate heads of state. However, there was speculation that Clinton/U.S. has England do this. And the place known for the killings is the rock of Gilbralter.
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| Posted 10/24/2001 12:20 PM (GMT -6) | | quote:
I was in 9th grade when Clinton was first elected. Around the time of his first inaugration (January 1993) I had an interesting dream.
One part of it:
I was flying (not in an airplane) over the strait of Gilbralter (from Morocco to Spain) I landed on the rock of Gilbralter. I, along with several others, seemed to be reporters. We were taking down notes as Clinton was speaking to us. We were standing near a very large pit (you couldn’t see the bottom) and it looked sort of animated, with ghosts coming out of it. Clinton explained that this (the pit) was were he was going to throw “them.” As reporters, we weren’t scared. It didn’t seem to be an out of the ordinary thing at all. We just took notes.
Last year, I was reading about the law which this country has (which I thing Clinton put in place in the last 10 years) that the U.S. cannot asassinate heads of state. However, there was speculation that Clinton/U.S. has England do this. And the place known for the killings is the rock of Gilbralter.
"Evolution is both fact and a theory.It is a fact that evolutionary change took place. And evolution is also a theory that seeks to explain the detailed mechanism behind that change." Kenneth R. Miller
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