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PotOnWheel
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| Posted 11/26/2001 10:45 AM (GMT -6) |   | | On another thread the subject of martyrs came up. Early Christians was the context. But Menonnites and other Anabaptists, and Quackers can also speak up. And don't forget the contemporary martyrs! | | Back to Top | | |
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PotOnWheel
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| Posted 11/26/2001 5:30 PM (GMT -6) | | from Timothy Ware's book "The Orthodox Church", p.15 (AKA Bishop Kallistos Ware)
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the same approach is found in the west: take, for instance, a Celtic text -- an Irish homily of the seventh century -- which likens the ascetic life to the way of the martyr:- Now there are three kinds of martyrdom which are accounted as a Cross to a man, white martyrdom, green martyrdom, and red martyrdom. White martyrdom consists in a man's abandoning everything he loves for God's sake. . . Green martyrdom consists in this, that by means of fasting and labor he frees himself from his evil desires, or suffers toil in penance and repentance. Red martyrdom consists in the endurance of a Cross or death for Christ's sake.
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(ISA 64:8 "Yet, O Lord, you are our Father. We are the clay, you are the potter; we are all the work of your hand.")
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Triskal
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| Posted 11/26/2001 8:31 PM (GMT -6) | | I've always thought it to mean giving up your life for Christ. But if that's true, are we not all spiritual martyrs in the sense that we've given up our lives for Jesus? Although we have not physically died, we have given our lives over to Him. What do you think?
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"In Him we live and move and have our being" - Acts 17:28
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PotOnWheel
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| Posted 11/27/2001 1:00 AM (GMT -6) | | Triskal: But if that's true, are we not all spiritual martyrs in the sense that we've given up our lives for Jesus? Although we have not physically died, we have given our lives over to Him. What do you think?
PoW: Another book by Ware (Bishop Kallistos Ware), "the Inner Kingdom" (great book) has a chapter called "The Seed of the Church: Martyrdom as a Universal Vocation."!!!!!!
(Us who were born Baptist have to remember that "vocation" probably refers here to the commital of one's life as in going into a monastery.)
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