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rb1963b
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Posted 3/12/2002 4:41 PM (GMT -6)

Question: how much of what we believe is philosophy, how much is want, how much is truth?

rb1963b
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Posted 3/12/2002 4:44 PM (GMT -6)

Whoops, did it again! Well it might get someone to read it anyway! :)

Tom
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Posted 3/12/2002 5:53 PM (GMT -6)

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Question: how much of what we believe is philosophy, how much is want, how much is truth?

Aren't those all the same thing?

Tom

rb1963b
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Posted 3/14/2002 3:57 PM (GMT -6)

No. Read Colossians 2:8, Phillipians 4:11.

The reason that I asked this question is because about 2 years ago I began to question why I believed what I believed at the time, I have found that a lot of it was fluff. The real problem was when I began asking others about the questions I was having.

writerdad
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Posted 3/14/2002 6:08 PM (GMT -6)

Scripture is truth, but how we interpret scripture may not be. Everyone comes to the table with their own prejudices, views on things, needs, etc. So I am always skeptical of people who say, "I just believe what the Bible says." All of what we believe is philosophy, our own philosophy, which may or may not be truth. Just because it is philosophy doesn't mean it isn't true. Harold

GregBoyd
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Posted 3/15/2002 5:07 AM (GMT -6)

rb1963b: Question: how much of what we believe is philosophy, how much is want, how much is truth?

Doc: All of mine is truth. Everyone who disagrees with me is philosophy and personal wants.

The true one

"Three is the magic number, oh yes it is, it's the Magic Number" - De La Soul

might-be-don
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Posted 3/15/2002 6:08 AM (GMT -6)

Yup, that's what I like about you Doc. No matter which way you turn, it's just as funny.

peace and love, don

ps. loved your "Let's Dig Up Some Dirt" show from awhile back.

A quote from Rev. Gregory A. Boyd, PhD ... " Has anyone seen my keys? "

writerdad
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Posted 3/15/2002 11:23 AM (GMT -6)

Doc: Are you starting a cult, 'cause I like being in on the ground floor of such things...

PhD MP
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Posted 3/15/2002 5:49 PM (GMT -6)

If we're talking here about "beliefs" regarding God and/or ultimate reality(metaphysics), then our "beliefs" should be more than merely objective facts. They should affect transformation of our character. If they do not affect our character, our choices, our ethics, then those beliefs are merely wishful thinking (as you say, what we merely "want").

Christianity is not merely a set of beliefs, but a life in subjection to Jesus Christ--a PERSON, not merely an idea or concept. He is the solution to the ultimate epistemic, personal, psychological, and all other varieties of problems we face. He is therefore the truth.

"Truth" is a relationship in faith in him, if we define truth as a life in relationship with someone who can make us into whole people.

So, Jesus is one who is most appropriately in a position to tell us how to think. He is uniquely the one who can reveal truth to us. He has provided an immense amount of revealed truth via Scripture and his actions to bring us into relationship with him.

"Truth is in Jesus," Paul wrote.

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