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PotOnWheel
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   Posted 6/17/2006 11:00 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Two apparently irreconcilable aspects...of Natural Revelation
 
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There are two apparently irreconcilable aspects to the New Testament's affirmation of Natural Revelation.

On the one hand, it is affirmed that man is able to discover God's existence from examining His works in nature, because "since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead" (Romans 1:20). There is not a word in this text about faith. Indeed, how can one believe in what is "clearly seen"?

On the other hand, it is equally attested that "he who comes to God must believe that He is" (Hebrews 11:6). Faith, not reason, is affirmed here. However, if faith in God's existence is necessary, how am I to have faith in what I already know? How is it possible to know and believe in the same thing?

I did not make up this problem. The mutual exclusivity of faith and reason, when both are directed to the same object and under the same aspect, has always been recognized among rational men.

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http://www.allsaintsorthodox.org/Ponderings/Pondering_2006_06_25.html

READ THE REST, AND GIVE YOUR TWO-CENTS WORTH!


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Similitude
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   Posted 6/18/2006 8:05 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
The rest of the Hebrews verse says "...and that He is the rewarder of those who diligently seek Him." The demons believe that He is and tremble. But they apparently don't have faith to believe the second part.


 

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Sahid
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   Posted 6/19/2006 5:21 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
He who comes to God must believe that he exists. He can believe based on examination of nature. What's the problem? See, then believe, then come to God.


Watch me fly. Freedom like wings and I will use them. Freedom like wings and I will spread them wide. - Stavesacre

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