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Tom
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   Posted 11/16/2006 10:27 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Why assume non-corporeal entities are hazy when it comes to ontology?

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   Posted 11/16/2006 12:39 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
The bible is so full of discriptions of God from Him being invisiable, to saying that no one could SEE Him and live. He showed something to Moses that caused a afterglow. We know Jesus will forever be in a human body for eternity though remaining God. But I don't think the bible gives us enough to say the Father has something like a human body , it seems clear He has some form though. We see God is Spirit, and is everywhere and yet then once again what did Moses see? Does a spirit take shape or have form? Maybe not from our understand, but maybe in the Spirit world you can see things that cannot be seen with the human eyes, remember when the man's eyes were opened and he saw a great multitude of angels ready to war against their enemies? It is not something that really shakes or worry me, I know someday in a glorified body I will see God and live and I have no idea what He will look like, other then it will be the most horrifying, yet glorious awe inspiring experience one could ever experience. Heck, people fell down as dead and were in terror when they saw angels, imagine when we see God!

Well, I got to go and eat burger and then get back to work shakehead

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PotOnWheel
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   Posted 11/16/2006 6:41 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Holistic View said...
...I am yet to be convinced that the Biblical God is some kind of hazy stuff.
I'd not find myself saying that God is "stuff."


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   Posted 11/22/2006 3:34 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
John: I know someday in a glorified body I will see God and live and I have no idea what He will look like, other then it will be the most horrifying, yet glorious awe inspiring experience one could ever experience.
 
Heather: You mean seeing with your eyes? Even if we could "see" God, I don't think our eyes would be able to grasp at all how powerful and grand God really is. It's not that you will finally get to see what God really "looks" like (5 fingers, 5 toes, 2 hands?) but my take on this is that your whole being will get a keener sense how majestic God really is. So God won't have to have a 3-D form for us to sense God spiritually - that spiritual awareness would be much more profound than the eye could even begin to take in.
 
Even though there are instances in the Bible such as where Moses saw the back of God, this doesn't mean that God wasn't also immediately and wholly present to everything else - Moses' view was just a type of manifestation of God to help Moses in understanding God better.


 

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John
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   Posted 11/22/2006 8:34 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
God is mysterous. When I see him I do not expect to see a 3D figure or something. I do wonder though about the spiritual realm, angels and devils are all around us, but we can't see them and yet I imagine in some sort of way they see. God may not have any eyes, and yet He still SEES. Since God fills to universe it shows the absurdity of thinking we could fully see him.


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