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Tom
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   Posted 1/26/2007 11:35 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.

I saw these quotes posted on another site. Thought it was interesting.

 

Tertullian "At that greatest of all spectacles, that last and eternal judgment how shall I admire, how laugh, how rejoice, how exult, when I behold so many proud monarchs groaning in the lowest abyss of darkness…"

Gerhard "The Blessed will see their friends and relations among the damned as often as they like but without the least of compassion.”

Jonathan Edwards "Reprobate infants are vipers of vengeance, which Jehovah will hold over hell, in the tongs of his wrath, till they turn and spit venom in his face!" and "The view of the misery of the damned will double the ardour of the love and gratitude of the saints of heaven."

Charles Spurgeon "I further believe, although certain persons deny it, that the influence of fear is to be exercised over the minds of men and that it ought to operate upon the mind of the preacher himself."

Thomas Aquinas "That the saints may enjoy their beatitude more thoroughly, and give more abundant thanks for it to God, a perfect sight of the punishment of the damned is granted them."

Jeremy Taylor "Husbands shall see their wives, parents shall see their children tormented before their eyes…the bodies of the damned shall be crowded together in hell like grapes in a wine-press, which press on another till they burst…"

Richard Baxter "It is not a terrible thing to a wretched soul, when it shall lie roaring perpetually in the flames of hell, and the God of mercy himself shall laugh at them; when…God shall mock them instead of relieving them; when none in heaven or earth can help them but God, and he shall rejoice over them in their calamity."


Reverend J. Furniss, C.S.S.R "The fifth dungeon is the red hot oven. The little child is in the red hot oven. Hear how it screams to come out; see how it turns and twists itself about in the fire. It beats its head against the roof of the oven. It stamps its little feet on the floor."


Reverend E.B. Pusey, D.D. "Gather in one, in your mind, an assembly of all those men and women, from whom, whether in history or in fiction, your memory most shrinks, gather in mind all that is loathsome, most revolting.... conceive the fierce, fiery eyes of hate, spite, frenzied rage, ever fixed on thee, looking thee through and through with hate…. hear those yells of blaspheming concentrated hate, as they echo along the lurid vault of hell; everyone hating everyone…. Yet a fixedness in that state in which the hardened malignant sinner dies, involves, without any further retribution of God, this endless misery."

 

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   Posted 1/26/2007 2:19 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.

Intense Despair Unto Spiritual Insanity.

Have you had enough of it?

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   Posted 1/26/2007 3:13 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Interesting thought:

What would little Akiane think if she read this...and knew that they were God's MINISTERS talking about God putting reprobate babies in hot ovens?

What would this darling child of God think if a MINISTER told her that God can and does REFUSE to forgive some people?

What would her beautiful faith tell her?

What, indeed.

Let's think about that.


"All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to Me.
 
Therefore (YOU) go and introduce all peoples into the Way, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, and intstructing them in following everything I have commanded you. (Great Commandments!)
 
And surely I am with you always, even to the very end of the age."

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Tom
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   Posted 1/26/2007 4:33 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Caraaaaaazzy!

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   Posted 1/26/2007 7:35 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
"KIll 'em. Kill 'em all!"

Captain Hook in "Hook"


My teacher used to say that whenever he read Scripture, he would always ask the question, "What does this have to say about the character of God?"  Working off his thinking, as I read Scripture, I have come to ask, "What does this have to say about the heart and passion of God's desire for relationship with us?

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   Posted 1/26/2007 7:36 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
The tide is changing, my friends...

"I feel the earth move under my feet..."

Joni Mitchell


My teacher used to say that whenever he read Scripture, he would always ask the question, "What does this have to say about the character of God?"  Working off his thinking, as I read Scripture, I have come to ask, "What does this have to say about the heart and passion of God's desire for relationship with us?

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   Posted 1/26/2007 10:51 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
The more of contemplate their comments the more sick I feel.

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   Posted 1/27/2007 7:47 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Man, I have seriously been contemplating getting out of "professional" ministry because of stuff like this.

Piper's sermon about God loving HIMSELF more than US was JUST LAST YEAR!

You've SEEN how hateful some Evangelicals can be.

I don't know if I can handle this religious insanity anymore.

Sometimes, I feel like I'd rather work at a McDonalds.

Let's pray for each other.


"All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to Me.
 
Therefore (YOU) go and introduce all peoples into the Way, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, and intstructing them in following everything I have commanded you. (Great Commandments!)
 
And surely I am with you always, even to the very end of the age."

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   Posted 1/27/2007 7:57 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
It just hit me.

Hard.

"No."

I can't quit.

WE can't quit.

It's not TIME for that yet.

Craziness WINS when fewer SANE voices stand up.

Dude, I believe that God is going to drydock this ship!

God is going to restore the wonderful, inexpressible BEAUTY and LOVE of the Gospel to North America!

I want to be a part of THAT!

Like you said, Tom. The BEAUTY is there! It's ALWAYS been there!! We just need to help get some of the barnacles off. And we can do that in a caring, yet firm way. Diligence. Prayer. Fasting. Unconditional love.

It can be done.

It WILL be done.

Our time is not up.

Thanks, Lord. You know how I get sometimes... :-)


"All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to Me.
 
Therefore (YOU) go and introduce all peoples into the Way, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, and intstructing them in following everything I have commanded you. (Great Commandments!)
 
And surely I am with you always, even to the very end of the age."

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   Posted 1/27/2007 12:15 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
"I feel the earth move under my feet..."

Joni Mitchell
 
Jeff: Wasn't that Carole King?


 

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   Posted 1/27/2007 12:15 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
"I feel the earth move under my feet..."

Joni Mitchell
 
Jeff: Wasn't that Carole King?biggrin


 

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Tom
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   Posted 1/27/2007 12:38 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Yeah, it was Carol! What a sweetheart. Dude, I saw her play on TV in a celebration part for James Taylor. She was at the piano singing "You've got a Friend." Taylor and everbody else was out in the audience seated at tables. about half way through the song Jimmy snuck around the back stage and out onto the stage where King was still singing at the piano. She didn't know he was there. He had a mic with him and as he walked toward her from behind her he started singing with her, then sat at the piano with her and they finished the song together. It was awesome.

OK, so now everybody knows how old I am.

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   Posted 1/27/2007 4:44 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
jefscott said...
"I feel the earth move under my feet..."

Joni Mitchell
 
Jeff: Wasn't that Carole King?

Oh, for pete's sake. Sorry about that!  I'm getting old!
 
Thanks Jeff, no go back to bed and leave this old fart to save face!
 
Starkman


My teacher used to say that whenever he read Scripture, he would always ask the question, "What does this have to say about the character of God?"  Working off his thinking, as I read Scripture, I have come to ask, "What does this have to say about the heart and passion of God's desire for relationship with us?

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   Posted 1/27/2007 6:51 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Hey guys, do you remember Carole's "Jazz Man?" What a great song!


 

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   Posted 1/27/2007 9:14 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Carol King rocks! Very intelligent and very deep in her search for music's language and expression. (Joni Mitchell is right up there, too. Same depth and searching heart for what music is all about...even it she didn't write "I Feel the Earth..!";-)

For Old Timer's disease,

Starkman


My teacher used to say that whenever he read Scripture, he would always ask the question, "What does this have to say about the character of God?"  Working off his thinking, as I read Scripture, I have come to ask, "What does this have to say about the heart and passion of God's desire for relationship with us?

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   Posted 1/30/2007 3:05 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Exousia says, "Man, I have seriously been contemplating getting out of "professional" ministry because of stuff like this."

Exousia says, "Dude, I believe that God is going to drydock this ship!"

I like the drydock metaphor. When you drydock a ship you take away it's natural support (the water) and replace it an artificial one. I would suggest the boat is already drydocked, relying on artificial means to provide it's support in the form of "professional" ministers and the laity providing cash to keep it that way.

When the craziness reaches it's fullness, it will be seen for what it is and reform will happen. Do you put new wine in old wineskins ?

Bang, bang... beating the dead horse again.


The world's perfect, wouldn't change a thing.
 

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