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J.N.Darby
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   Posted 2/20/2007 5:15 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Greetings in Christ,
I wanted to get some thoughts and input on the so-called "Way of the Master" (WOTM) manner of evangelism. If you're not familiar with it, here's their website: www.livingwaters.com
I have some serious reservations concerning this method, and here's an article by someone else which echoes many of my own concerns (though I actually feel and speak a bit more critically of the WOTM than Mr. Beaumont does): http://www.souldevice.org/SoulDevice/crit_wayofthemaster.html
Is anyone here already familiar with this, and if so, what are your thoughts on it? For those not already familiar with it, tell me what your first impressions are while browsing livingwaters.com

Thanks, and God bless.
Ricco
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might-be-don
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   Posted 2/22/2007 7:49 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
John 7:38 , "He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water."

No "method" needed. Ever since being involved with a production of "Heaven's Gates, Hell's Flames" I have been totally against ANY kind of directed attempt to "evangelize" .


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J.N.Darby
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   Posted 2/22/2007 8:14 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
What was "Heaven's Gates, Hell's Flames" all about?

might-be-don said...
John 7:38 , "He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water."

No "method" needed. Ever since being involved with a production of "Heaven's Gates, Hell's Flames" I have been totally against ANY kind of directed attempt to "evangelize" .
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   Posted 2/22/2007 10:01 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Though I greatly admire Ray Comfort, I think he has not yet seen that the "old school" method of evangelism simply won't work well in our Post-Modern age. I mean, watch the shows; how many people convert or will even come to church by the "Preach Law to Them" method? This did work for so many years because most everyone believed in the Good Lord above. Everyone (in this country, at least) lived with a belief in God and that the Ten Commandments were of God and were good. Now days, however, it's a free-for-all for many. Young kids have no idea what's truth and aren't the least bit interested in being told that they are "sinners" in a relativistic world. It dont' work!

People definitely need to know that much of what they are doing is wrong, but they must first realize that there is more to life than what the Post-Modern thinking offers them. Kids aren't going to come to the Lord because Ray Comfort tells them on the streets, "Thou shalt not fornicate." They don't even seen "breaking" the these laws as all that problematic; it's the way things are today. So it's going to take another "method," one that relates to where people are today.

Starkman


My teacher used to say that whenever he read Scripture, he would always ask the question, "What does this have to say about the character of God?"  Working off his thinking, as I read Scripture, I have come to ask, "What does this have to say about the heart and passion of God's desire for relationship with us?

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might-be-don
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   Posted 2/22/2007 12:15 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
More than you'll ever want to know ... http://www.gospelcenterchurch.org/heavenhell.html


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Sahid
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   Posted 2/22/2007 5:51 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
"and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you."

Whatever happened to that part? Rather than teach the commands of Jesus, churches have frequently substituted "True Love Waits," homophobia, and patriotism. I can't count the sermons I've heard in which the gospel of Jesus has been elbowed to the side by the gospel of Bill O'Reilly. Were Christian evangelism consistently practiced in the way prescribed by Jesus, I believe it would be seen more sympathetically by the rest of the world.


Watch me fly. Freedom like wings and I will use them. Freedom like wings and I will spread them wide. - Stavesacre

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J.N.Darby
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   Posted 2/24/2007 9:13 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Still trying to get some input on this topic :-) Does anyone have any thoughts concerning Beaumont's critique of WOTM?
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Greetings in Christ,
I wanted to get some thoughts and input on the so-called "Way of the Master" (WOTM) manner of evangelism. If you're not familiar with it, here's their website: www.livingwaters.com
I have some serious reservations concerning this method, and here's an article by someone else which echoes many of my own concerns (though I actually feel and speak a bit more critically of the WOTM than Mr. Beaumont does): http://www.souldevice.org/SoulDevice/crit_wayofthemaster.html
Is anyone here already familiar with this, and if so, what are your thoughts on it? For those not already familiar with it, tell me what your first impressions are while browsing livingwaters.com

Thanks, and God bless.
Ricco
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